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    Oops I thought I quoted Krislite but looks like I failed? Anyway thanks for the info, Krislite! One more chance to see her programs, yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    Well, wadaya know. KSU has confirmed that Yuna is competing at Korean Nationals.

    It'll be a different rink from last year, though, a more modern one with presumably better ice conditions and temperature control.
    Thanks, Krislite. So your comment regarding the ice conditions; am I to infer this is S Korea getting its house in order for 2018?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RABID View Post
    Thanks, Krislite. So your comment regarding the ice conditions; am I to infer this is S Korea getting its house in order for 2018?
    No. The venue for this season's Korean Nationals is simply one of the newer ones built in the last decade. It's not a rink built for figure skaters nor do they train there (too crowded I hear), but its ice surface quality is computer controlled and venue's air temperature is not freezing cold.

    I understand that there are rinks being built for 2018, but they won't be ready for a a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    No. The venue for this season's Korean Nationals is simply one of the newer ones built in the last decade. It's not a rink built for figure skaters nor do they train there (too crowded I hear), but its ice surface quality is computer controlled and venue's air temperature is not freezing cold.

    I understand that there are rinks being built for 2018, but they won't be ready for a a while.
    Oh well. Either way, it's good to hear and perhaps in those warm confines she'll start working in some of that YuNa magic into her programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    No. The venue for this season's Korean Nationals is simply one of the newer ones built in the last decade. It's not a rink built for figure skaters nor do they train there (too crowded I hear), but its ice surface quality is computer controlled and venue's air temperature is not freezing cold.

    I understand that there are rinks being built for 2018, but they won't be ready for a a while.
    Thank goodness they are building some, but they should have done it as far back as 2008-09. It probably would've given more upcoming figure skaters a chance to blossom by Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    It'll be a different rink from last year, though, a more modern one with presumably better ice conditions and temperature control.
    It's the same rink which hosted 2008 4CC & 2008-2009 GPF.

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    The shoulda-won talk aside, I was curious what everyone thought of the Sochi version of Adios Nonino. Did it finally have more of the feel of a tango, greater unity? Did Ven at last experience the catharsis he/she was hoping for? Have all your hopes and wishes been fulfilled?

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    Which version is Yuna's? There are so many but I liked this one on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPec8z5vdY

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    Quote Originally Posted by usethis2 View Post
    Which version is Yuna's? There are so many but I liked this one on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPec8z5vdY
    I like that percussion-heavy beginning! But I was talking about the Adios routine. Quite a few Yuna fans initially had reservations about this program. So I was curious if her rendition of it in Sochi changed their mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verysmuchso View Post
    The shoulda-won talk aside, I was curious what everyone thought of the Sochi version of Adios Nonino. Did it finally have more of the feel of a tango, greater unity? Did Ven at last experience the catharsis he/she was hoping for? Have all your hopes and wishes been fulfilled?
    I did have a better perception with the Sochi performance. It was a little jazzy, but I don't bother as long as it goes along well. The music & choreo settled in better with me too.

    Looking back, I think the reason I didn't want this program was because it wasn't a statement program; that's where all the rant developed. I still don't think it's a statement program; meaning, it doesn't have the impact that grabs first-time spectator's attention. There's a reason Transformers and Frozen were all the rage, while serious ones are less popular; they have instantaneous spectacles that easily translate into mass appeal. Yuna also had many blockbuster programs; I was disappointed because I was so used to that and expected something out of the ordinary yet universally comprehensive. Grandeur, lights, orchestra, bangs. (I even arranged different versions of the music myself ahead of time!) Same with the costumes - they weren't BADLY bad, but it's Yuna, a constant best dresser. Like Yuna said: "the bigger the expectation, the bigger the disappointment." Although, I believe I was reasonably entitled to such expectation.

    At the Sochi, she refined details to the point where people could feel the quality, whether the casual impact was there or not. (I recommend NBC no-commentary version) Objectively, I was able to get positive feedback from non-fans for the Sochi one whereas they slept over the Nationals one.

    I suspect I would've been happier if it was one of her show pieces; I'm an occasional attention seeker in a way that I go around, share things I'm inspired by, and feel fulfillment by mutual happiness. I ranted because it wasn't easy; thankfully Yuna pulled it this much.

    + I already had had concerns when I heard the choices; neither music was easy to have a great impact, so they worried me. Oh well.

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    I think I have seen it once before the Olympics. Altogether I would put it somewhere between her Gershwin and Les Mis. I like it more than Les Mis but I am not sure if I liked the interpretation of Adios as much as Gershwin's. Granted it is her/Wilson's interpretation, not mine, but I could understand Gershwin more easily than Adios. (Les Mis was very very obvious, lol) Nevertheless the Adios piece definitely put me in a mood just as the Send in the Clown did (my favorite SP of Yuna's). It was a little surprise that she chose both SP and FS with somewhat heavy undertones and complex melodies despite the deceptively light tunes. I am guessing for the Sochi audience neither Gershin nor Adios would have done it, though. Les Mis would have probably fared better with that crowd. (or Swan, Carmen, something really vulgar and raucous..)

    Sorry I did not know of this thread so please excuse me if I am completely off here. I will try to read it through later.

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    I love it and can't stop watching it. I like it better than les mis and concerto but slightly less than homage. It doesn't scream Olympic program like les mis and scherezade but that might be why I like it so much. She wasn't skating for the crowd but to test her artistic boundary. And that circular foot work sequence was perfection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsmith72 View Post
    I love it and can't stop watching it. I like it better than les mis and concerto but slightly less than homage. It doesn't scream Olympic program like les mis and scherezade but that might be why I like it so much. She wasn't skating for the crowd but to test her artistic boundary. And that circular foot work sequence was perfection!
    Les Mis and Scherezade are actually my least favorite of Yuna's programs. I thought Adios Nonio was dazzling, and the footwork especially was sumptuous.

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    It was perfect.
    End of review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebevia View Post
    I did have a better perception with the Sochi performance. It was a little jazzy, but I don't bother as long as it goes along well. The music & choreo settled in better with me too.

    Looking back, I think the reason I didn't want this program was because it wasn't a statement program; that's where all the rant developed. I still don't think it's a statement program; meaning, it doesn't have the impact that grabs first-time spectator's attention. There's a reason Transformers and Frozen were all the rage, while serious ones are less popular; they have instantaneous spectacles that easily translate into mass appeal. Yuna also had many blockbuster programs; I was disappointed because I was so used to that and expected something out of the ordinary yet universally comprehensive. Grandeur, lights, orchestra, bangs. (I even arranged different versions of the music myself ahead of time!) Same with the costumes - they weren't BADLY bad, but it's Yuna, a constant best dresser. Like Yuna said: "the bigger the expectation, the bigger the disappointment." Although, I believe I was reasonably entitled to such expectation.

    At the Sochi, she refined details to the point where people could feel the quality, whether the casual impact was there or not. (I recommend NBC no-commentary version) Objectively, I was able to get positive feedback from non-fans for the Sochi one whereas they slept over the Nationals one.

    I suspect I would've been happier if it was one of her show pieces; I'm an occasional attention seeker in a way that I go around, share things I'm inspired by, and feel fulfillment by mutual happiness. I ranted because it wasn't easy; thankfully Yuna pulled it this much.

    + I already had had concerns when I heard the choices; neither music was easy to have a great impact, so they worried me. Oh well.
    I shared similar concerns that you had. It was beautiful but maybe too artistic to capture the hearts of "wider" audience, I suppose, because in a big event like the Olympics, you probably have better chance of wowing the crowd if you use a bit more arousing, dramatic music rather than inward-looking piece. I hoped she could have used this for the worlds last year and "Les Mis" for the Olympics...
    But I can't stop watching Adios Nonino over and over again. It's so subtle, sophisticated, and just gorgeous, I get to appreciate it more and more as I watch. I can notice so much intricate movements and arrangement in the program.

    It is a big statement from a skating master, and it is something that will be much appreciated by serious skating fans, but for the big audience who probably watch figure skating only at the Olympics every four years, I think it would have been more strategic to choose an outward-looking piece of music to stir up the crowd.

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