Phaeljones, I am sorry. I don't even know you or your positions. Why should I have personal issue with you? It's hard to understand why have I offended you? You were talking about more places should adopt Japanese style. I said not everyone likes that style and want to follow the suit. You said it's a tough house here. I said yes it's tough for skaters. If you had said up front not to quote you, I would certainly not have quoted you.
Wow, even in this kind of thread the regular poster find a chance to bash Yuzuru again, I'm seriously doubt if some people here has "problem" and need help.
article is so reflective of how the male and female gender behave and react differently to similar situations. Love this bit:
Yes, you argue that men are constantly sniping at each other in tiny ways. You call this “dueling.” -
There are a number of criteria: It’s symbolic, playful, stylized. In its purest form, it looks quite a lot like a performance. But the disposition to duel sort of seeps into everyday speech too — like if two guys, for example, come up to each other, and one of them says, “Hey, you old son of a *****. How the hell are ya?” and maybe insults him a little bit about his bulging midriff, or his thinning hair, or some weird shirt that he is wearing. Women would simply never, never, never do that. They might later privately tell someone, “Hasn’t she aged terribly?” They would never say to her face, “Well, look at the wrinkles on your face” or, “My God! I’ve never seen bulging breasts like those before,” and so forth.
Back to topic. I think Hanyu's learned a lot from just competing with Chan the entire GP season. His competitive mentality really improved from SC to the GPF, and I think it had a lot to do with competing against Chan - someone he had a very small chance of beating. He had to adjust himself. Now he's focusing on himself and not on how Chan and the others score, it seems to be working for him. Hopefully he can take this mentality onto nationals, olympics, and worlds.
Anyway, I don't think it really has anything to do with competitive spirit or north american culture or whatnot. i honestly think it just came out wrong, and he didn't mean to stir the pot - you can't fault some people for the comment rubbing the wrong way though.
Re: the topic, in a sense, I think Yuzuru was pretty lucky to be skating with Patrick at both events. He got a chance to learn from him and also get a first hand look at his skating skills and practices.
Yuzuru was very lucky to get to skate with Patrick Chan for three events. He learned that he can focus outside of the pressure and re-focus and continue even when there is a mishap. When Yuzuru's blade got caught in the ditch at BEP and he missed both of his quads, he still got up and re-focussed and never gave up. (Patrick did the same at GPF. Even when he was distracted by the sky cam, he never gave up and he fought really hard in that sp skate. One gets the impression that they both inspire each other.) When Patrick Chan gave the interview at Skate Canada and spoke of Hanyu's skating (describing Hanyu's transitions), Hanyu (according to Hanyu) was hanging on every word to learn as much as he could. If there has been any season where there has been shown the greatest improvement in Hanyu's performance, it is this year and having the opportunity to skate with Chan has to be a big part of that.
I just wish Mr. Chan would learn to think before he speaks. But I've been saying that for many years now, so I guess it's a case where he just doesn't care if he comes off sounding like a mean-spirited jerk.
The only male skaters I can think of who mouth off like this are Chan, Moir, Plushenko, Majorov and Shabalin (who thought D/S should have won at least silver in Vancouver). Only two of these are North American.