Could a Solo Dance/Artistic Event be a good option for future major championships?
A common remark made by commentators about artistic skaters who struggle with jumps regularly in competition is that 'if they were able to skate a program with no jumps, they will be world champions etc.'
Imagine if the ISU began purting purely artistic disciplines like these in major championships.
From my understanding, there are artistic skating championships, however, they are never highlighted that much.
Dance is a universally popular activity enjoyed by many people globally which continuously evolves and changes like all other artistic forms and mediums. I would love to see all forms of dance translated onto the ice and having events where skaters can give our artistically minded skaters an opportunity to perform at their best.
In an ideal world, it would be great but in reality, chances are it is not realistic financially but figure skating needs to change and evolve in the face of decline in North America and Europe and all ideas need to be explored and considered.
What are your thoughts?
Who are some skaters today that would be world champions if they were able to just present an artistic program?
It's really hard to judge artistic performances. Certainly it would not be a good Olympic event as people watch for the elements and the judges would just have a field day. The reason skating is in the Olympics and worth watching is the elements. Purely artistic competitions are fine on a local level but not nationally/internationally, IMO.
There are events that showcase artistry. They are called galas or shows.
Originally Posted by GF2445
Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy
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KKonas, at the club level there must be a lot of little girls who want to learn ice dancing but don't have a partner. Are there competitions in solo dance at this level?
they go through testing, I'm not sure about competitions (I'm not KKonas, but I still felt like answering lol)
Originally Posted by Mathman
The US has a solo dance program, with a national championship, beginning a few years ago:
Looks like the UK has had a national solo championship at least since 2002:
Not sure about other countries.
For free dance, or OD/short dance, ordinal judging is probably too subjective. If it's just judges choosing who they find most entertaining, it's not a sport -- even if that might be more fun for casual audiences to watch.
Some kind of code of points with some required elements, levels, point values, and GOEs would make it more objective and keep athletic and technical accomplishment important, to keep it in the realm of sport. At least to the same degree as SD and FD by couples. And then PCS can also reward choreography, music interpretation, performance, etc.
Obviously there can't be any lifts with solo dance, but other elements can be similar to what couples do. See p. 7 here for the current senior solo free dance requirements.
Right now it doesn't attract many skaters who are aiming for international competition, because it isn't offered internationally.
I would love to see the ISU jump on the bandwagon and offer senior and junior internationals in this discipline, to increase the popularity, attract stronger athletes, eventually leading to a world championship.
It can't be anything goes and still be a competition, but I think it will be more oriented toward coherent choreography than disciplines that are focused on triple jumps.
The rules linked above allow jumps only up to half a revolution in the step sequences and don't say anything about jumps as transitions.
I'd like to see jumps of up to 1.5 revolutions allowed -- and maybe rewarded with point values in some way, or at least rewarded in PCS if used effectively and not penalized. Double, triple, or quad jumps (or backflips) could be illegal elements with penalties.
I think this will appeal to people who like ice dancing, except for those whose main interest is in the relationship between partners, which wouldn't be relevant. Instead it would be about the relationship between the skater and the ice and/or music and/or audience.
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