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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    I think the FFSG wanted Amodio as the national champion and that message went through loud and clear to the judges. Amodio did have his 4S, but otherwise seems to have been in about same form as he was on the GP, and we know what sort of marks he got there (note that French Nats tend to track international scores more closely than most nationals). We'll see what happens later this season...
    Thanks, Buttercup! your reasoning makes sense to me, but still... Brian simply deserves more respect from his own fed for what he has contributed for the sake of French figure skating all these years. Same goes to Nathalie & Fabian.

    re Florent. I'm worried about him, too. What happened to his 3As which used to be much much more stable for him? Is he injured or something? Hope he is okay.

    I share your hopes re P/B and also hope that Joubert and Amodio will be in better form later this season, especially Joubert.
    Me, too!

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    Nice article from IN on the French Nationals!

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/12/16/66002426

    Congrats to the Medalists! Very happy for Mae, finally she won Gold!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattieu View Post
    They also had a face off at French Masters, where Carron/Jones beat Papadakis/Cizeron convincingly. So Papadakis/Cizeron have had 2 opportunities to beat Carron/Jones in direct competition, that seems more than a fair judgement of which is the stronger couple, one national and one international competition. So even if Carron/Jones had been present at Nationals, and had been beaten by Papadakis/Cizeron, that would still be 2 out of 3 competitions in Carron/Jones favour.

    To be fair to Carron/Jones, they have shown marked progression after a couple of years of stagnation, and have also put out consistent performances all season.

    I think medium and long term Papadakis/Cizeron have more potential and are world podium material, particularly him, but at the present moment Carron/Jones are simply the stronger couple. You can't mark "potential", you have to mark what is put out there.

    So for my money, despite my love of Papadakis/Cizeron, I'd rather see a consistent, experienced mature couple get Sochi, than a couple who are young, inexperienced and inconsistent, as could be seen in their contra-performance in the Russian GP. A couple just up from juniors will always be an unknown quantity.

    HAVING SAID ALL THAT, THE FRENCH FEDERATION AKA DIDIER, WILL SEND WHOEVER THEY WANT TO REGARDLESS OF RESULTS!!
    P/C are being hyped too early, I think. I never thought they would overtake C/J this season. While they have some good moments, their SD at their 2nd? GP (can't remember which one it was off the top of my head) was dreadful. I think it was TEB..

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    Brian Joubert doesn't look as good as he once did. Remember the glory days of 2004 with the Matrix? I used to watch this program on repeat! Now he looks likes he's lost confidence in his abilities. At least he's still easy on the eyes though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    Nice article from IN on the French Nationals!

    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/12/16/66002426

    Congrats to the Medalists! Very happy for Mae, finally she won Gold!
    Thank you! Really thorough article, and a good read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sochi_2014 View Post
    Brian Joubert doesn't look as good as he once did. Remember the glory days of 2004 with the Matrix? I used to watch this program on repeat! Now he looks likes he's lost confidence in his abilities. At least he's still easy on the eyes though!
    Give the guy a break, he's 29 years old and has a history of injuries. He has been successfully competing internationally for 12 years. His body is tired. OF COURSE he doesn't look as good as he once did.
    Still gotta admire his perseverance and consistence. He wasn't that far from medalling at Worlds 2012 and Euros 2013. His programs this year actually do look good.
    What I wish for him is a bit harder combinations. He's doing a 3lz-2t. He used to have 4-3 and 3-3s. Looking at how solid and beautiful his lutz has always been, I wonder why he doesn't simply do a 3t after it.

    My favourite version of Brian was that Metallica program from his undefeated 2006/2007 season. I still miss seing him like that. But I do realize it's not coming back. Now all I want for him is to do well in Sochi so he can feel he's finally broken that God forsaken Olympic curse.

    as for dance, I actually don't get everyone's hope that P/C would beat C/J. What's your deal with C/J people? I think they are a good couple and their programs are great this season. Gabriella Papadakis has so many issues it's painful to watch sometimes.

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    Gotta love the French tv commentators. Fabian made a mistake in his twissels in FD, and the guy says "yeah he made a mistake there". Then the female commentator replies in an irritated way "lorsqu'ils reviennent du Japon!!" meaning that "because they have just arrived from Japan!!" and for that reason forgiving them the mistake...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpXL4NSmlA4

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    P/C are being hyped too early, I think. I never thought they would overtake C/J this season. While they have some good moments, their SD at their 2nd? GP (can't remember which one it was off the top of my head) was dreadful. I think it was TEB..
    It was in the Russian GP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sochi_2014 View Post
    Brian Joubert doesn't look as good as he once did. Remember the glory days of 2004 with the Matrix? I used to watch this program on repeat! Now he looks likes he's lost confidence in his abilities. At least he's still easy on the eyes though!
    Then go watch it on repeat if you can't accept, as SimplyLex pointed out, that Joubert is not going to be in the sort of shape he was at a younger age - he is now one of the oldest competitors in the field, in his 13th consecutive senior season, and deals with health issues constantly. To me he looked undertrained, which does not surprise me; he recently said that "my body disagrees now to be on the peak for a whole season". He's also had some problems with his back and also changed his LP just a few weeks ago.

    Joubert was in better form than at NRW a week earlier and hopefully he'll be better prepared for the major events.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sara View Post
    Gotta love the French tv commentators. Fabian made a mistake in his twissels in FD, and the guy says "yeah he made a mistake there". Then the female commentator replies in an irritated way "lorsqu'ils reviennent du Japon!!" meaning that "because they have just arrived from Japan!!" and for that reason forgiving them the mistake...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpXL4NSmlA4
    They were tired and thus probably not as sharp. Fabian is quoted as saying this in the IN summary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyLex View Post
    Give the guy a break, he's 29 years old and has a history of injuries. He has been successfully competing internationally for 12 years. His body is tired. OF COURSE he doesn't look as good as he once did.
    Still gotta admire his perseverance and consistence. He wasn't that far from medalling at Worlds 2012 and Euros 2013. His programs this year actually do look good.
    What I wish for him is a bit harder combinations. He's doing a 3lz-2t. He used to have 4-3 and 3-3s. Looking at how solid and beautiful his lutz has always been, I wonder why he doesn't simply do a 3t after it.

    My favourite version of Brian was that Metallica program from his undefeated 2006/2007 season. I still miss seing him like that. But I do realize it's not coming back. Now all I want for him is to do well in Sochi so he can feel he's finally broken that God forsaken Olympic curse.
    Brian, even at 29yo, can STILL ROCK the CROWD like no one else does!

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