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    Are you excited for the Team event?

    The whole thing sounds unwieldy to me and I wonder how the organizers and networks are going to show it in a cohesive way. I suppose if done right it could catch the attention of an otherwise apathetic public and who knows, it could be "must-see TV" like how the Team gymnastics event of the summer games are. I have this feeling though that the time for this has come and gone and that broadcasters are not going to expend their precious air time too much on this event. At the same time there is a quality of exclusivity in this event that people in countries like Canada, America, Russia and Japan might appreciate, especially when it means not having to deal with pesky phenomenons from the under-represented countries, like say Korea. Good for those with more nationalistic tendencies as well. I'm suspicious though that this is just another reason to award more medals but it could or might, for example, help Americans feel more invested in all the figure skating disciplines of the winter games. Apologies if the topic has been hashed about before.

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    I'm not particularly excited. I think because the team events occur so near to the main events themselves (especially for men's and pair's) I can't imagine the top contenders will put in much effort, they'll be saving themselves - which translates to lackluster performances. I think the ISU is doing this to promote the sport, hoping to play off patriotic fervor like gymnastics does. But if I'm right that the performances will be lackluster, it could backfire in a big way.

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    Not at all. Just don't have the history of it being a team event. Feels very manufactured and artificial. May grow on me, though, but right now I couldn't care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallycairn View Post
    Not at all. Just don't have the history of it being a team event. Feels very manufactured and artificial. May grow on me, though, but right now I couldn't care less.
    This is how I feel. I don't like the idea of an undeserving Olympic medalist, and in the finals it could happen that someone who finishes last in their segment of 5 competitors could walk away with a gold medal. Further, it doesn't seem fair for teams to field only one skater - or none - for a segment depending upon whether they have a competitor who qualified in that category otherwise. If the IOC is allowing this event to happen they should allow qualifying countries to each have an equal number of competitors participate.

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    I'm excited for it because it's a new Olympic event and presents figure skating in a different way. It's also a great way for Canada to get an assured medal right off the bat and build confidence (normally we have trouble for the first few days so this might help).

    However, the lopsidedness makes it rather predictable as to who will be the medalists. It is also (as dmd said) unfair for qualifying countries that only have one skater or no skater for segments. It should be 2 different entries, one SP and one LP for the 10 qualifying countries across the board. It seems rather pointless to include countries that have a non-entry in one of the disciplines and puts them at a severe disadvantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    This is how I feel. I don't like the idea of an undeserving Olympic medalist, and in the finals it could happen that someone who finishes last in their segment of 5 competitors could walk away with a gold medal.
    I am not worried about that. The underserving wretch has not taken a medal away from someone else. If the Japanese pairs team manages to score two points to push their team into bronze medal range, good for them. S&S can still skate for gold just as they could if their were no team competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I am not worried about that. The underserving wretch has not taken a medal away from someone else. If the Japanese pairs team manages to score two points to push their team into bronze medal range, good for them. S&S can still skate for gold just as they could if their were no team competition.
    It's absolutely pointless for S/S to skate in the team event, other than literally showing their faces for the fans. Even if they happened to beat V/T, it would go as unnoticed and inconsequential (perhaps a small psychological boost over V/T but the GPF did that already for them).

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    This is such an individual sport, not to mention subjectivity in scores; team relay doesn't even make sense, unless purely technical.

    I would rather welcome actual team events - synchronized!

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    I'm looking forward to it, though I have no idea whether stamina will become an issue or not, and I feel certain there'll be some problems here and there with this first event. But there'll be more skating, and second chances from favourite skaters. I love the team effort in other individual sports - my fave being show jumping. Perhaps we'll have a huge Nations Cup skating event in the future, or at least increased popularity for the WTT.

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    Are you excited for the Team event?

    Yes, yes, yes!

    This is destined to be big. It will eventually eclipse the individual contests, for fans in countries that can field a competitive team. Don't worry about exclusivity -- the other countries can still win individual gold medals just like always. Nothing lost, something gained.

    Don't worry about athletes getting tired. Poor babies. They are Olympic athletes. Suck it up, like athletes in all other sports do.

    More medals, more medals, more medals. That's a good thing. This is win, win. Maybe in the end no one will care, but at least the ISU took its shot.

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    Unless the USA wins the team I don't see NBC showing much of the event. It will probably just be a highlight show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying camel View Post
    Unless the USA wins the team I don't see NBC showing much of the event. It will probably just be a highlight show.
    On the contrary, NBC already has been promoting that its first night of Olympic coverage will air on Thursday -- in advance of the opening ceremony on Friday -- in order to show team skating, as well as whatever other sport(s) has/have competition on Thursday. [Off the top of my head, I don't remember the other Thursday sports.]

    On Thursday, only ten pairs SPs and ten men's SPs will be skated, so I bet that NBC will show a high proportion of the totality.
    I'm sure that the American man who skates the SP will get a lot of attention from NBC, as will the Japanese man + Chan, Plushenko, and Han Yan -- if they skate in the team SP.
    Also (to a lesser extent, perhaps), the pairs from the U.S., China, and Canada + possibly Russia and Germany, depending on who they are.

    And on that first Thursday night, I expect NBC to preview much of the Olympic figure skating to come -- including the big names in the competitions for individuals, such as Yuna Kim. It's the perfect opportunity to show some fluff that will get viewers interested in the skaters to be seen in the coming days.

    Quote Originally Posted by centerpt1 View Post
    ... I'd like to see more athletes skate ...for example one lady does SP another LP-and to be able to switch out athletes in all the disciplines. ...
    Sixty skaters will compete in the team SPs/SD. Up to twenty "new" skaters can compete in the team FSs/FD.
    On top of those possible twenty, a maximum of only ten additional skaters would be involved if the rules allowed "new" entries in all four disciplines for the FSs/FD.

    At least eighteen skaters will earn team medals.

    Quote Originally Posted by RABID View Post
    ... Apologies if the topic has been hashed about before.
    LOL, no worries, Rabid. We have had quite a few previous threads on this topic -- but Mathman and others (incl. me) always are game for further discussion.

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    I am not excited about the team event, and I have a very good reason:
    Have you seen the judges' information? , they decided in advance, without a further draw, who will be the judges in the team event!
    Why? Is this competiton less important than the regular one?
    Is it because it starts first?
    IMO, it is because the Olympics are in Russia, and Russia is Russia is Russia...
    They have amazing skaters, but also "protection", just in case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdeal View Post
    It seems to me VERY ARTEFICIAL, and was created to try to get a chance to Russia.
    In order to this even the rules of the previous World Team Championships has been changed, when they realized Russia cannot win if there are 2 males and 2 females skaters count with no contender exists in men and the girls are great but very incosistent one's.

    It smells to me......
    Um, you DO realise that the WTT was created by JAPAN in the format that it was because Japan knew they didn't stand a chance unless they overbalanced the men and ladies to hide their lack of dance/pair quality, right?


    Anyway I think the team event is pointless, just more medals for the big powerhouses and a few little counties for decoration.

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