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    Question Any news on Kawaguti/Smirnov?

    does anyone have news about this pair after his problem in november ?
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    http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...l=1#post805164

    The above post says they are practicing again, but are not sure they will be ready in time for Sochi (or, presumably, Russian Nationals)

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    They are definitely not going to Russian Nationals. He skates about 3 hours a day and does a lot of floor work with Yuko. They hope to be ready by Europeans where the Russian fed will decide who gets picked to go. Their programs this season are wonderful, I hope they get a chance to skate them at least once this season.

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    I really love them and hope they make it to the Olympics. I admire her enormously for what she has sacrificed.

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    This is quite impressive and remarkable progress for him. Wishing them both strength and belief in themselves and satisfaction regardless of whether they achieve a full come back in time. The journey they are going through NOW alone is worthy of much admiration.

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    I truly hope they are able to achieve the impossible here and go to Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcd View Post
    Wishing them both strength and belief in themselves and satisfaction regardless of whether they achieve a full come back in time. The journey they are going through NOW alone is worthy of much admiration.
    My wish, too! Really really hope a miracle and they can come back to competitive ice. Fingers crossed!

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    Question kawaguchi/smirnov

    does anyone have news about this pair ?

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    All I know is that they recently skated in an EX, and did not compete in the Russian Cup Final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    All I know is that they recently skated in an EX, and did not compete in the Russian Cup Final.
    Interview published 28 Feb (Russian)
    http://fsrussia.ru/news/1121_aleksan...ret-olimpiadu/
    Smirnov told that they can not be at Worlds, he has only double jumps. He needs a month or two to restore.

    They want to continue skating, they participate in shows and prepare to new season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Interview published 28 Feb (Russian)
    http://fsrussia.ru/news/1121_aleksan...ret-olimpiadu/
    Smirnov told that they can not be at Worlds, he has only double jumps. He needs a month or two to restore.

    They want to continue skating, they participate in shows and prepare to new season.
    They will be great exhibition performers, even if they never got an Olympic medal. They were one of the highlights of the Vancouver 2010 exhibition gala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Honestly, the fed wasn't going to give them a bye for Worlds anyway. I know many people dislike B/L but K/S simply have not outperformed them in the past few seasons. While I like B/L, K/S are one of my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE pairs, so I am sad about this, but it's a fact. B/L's record since 2010/2011 season: Worlds: 5, 6, 7. Euros: 3, 2, WD, 3. GPF: 5, didn't make it, 2nd, didn't make it. K/S record since 2010/2011 season: Worlds 4, 7, 6. Euros: 2, WD, 5. GPF: didn't make it, 3, 6, didn't make it.
    At competitions where thy have gone head to head:
    2011 Worlds: K/S 1 space above B/L. 2012 Worlds: B/L one space above K/S. 2013 Worlds K/S one space above B/L.
    Euros 2011: K/S 1 space above B/L.
    GPF 2013: B/L 2nd, K/S 6th.
    In fact, a strong argument can be made that the teams are essentially equal internationally, with K/S possibly being Russia's #4 team, even with this injury not taking place. I don't like it. But facts are facts.
    I’m not sure I follow your train of thought so I’ll try my own.

    You are correct about the Russian Fed not sending them to Worlds, there's no reason to send them to their first competition of the season when it’s everyone else’s last. It would be best to wait until next season and start fresh; nothing would be gained by sending them now.

    As far as who is the better team, that is where I think you seem to be confused. Or I’m not understanding you.

    B/L have only beat K/S twice.

    1. Worlds in 2012 B/L beat K/S by 1.26. This was the year Smirnov had an appendicitis in January and missed Euros. He and Yuko fell on a lift in the short and was in 11th going into the free. In the free they didn’t get credit for a lift that would have given them about 5.25+ points (and a small bronze medal) and 4th instead of 7th-possibly 3rd-who knows what that botched lifts cost them.

    So B/L only beat them by 1.26 and that was with K/S giving away 5.25+ points. Not exactly blowing the competition away.

    2. GPF in 2012 where B/L got the silver where they skated the best they have ever skated (and let’s be honest, the best they will probably every skate in their careers) and K/S were 6th (not K/S finest skate.)

    At Worlds 2013 K/S missed another 8.25+ lift but beat B/L by 6.85 points. With the lift they would have been in 4th place. A much bigger point spread that B/L in 2012.

    B/L have really only ever smoked K/S at the GPF in 2012 and considering Smirnov knee injury it doesn’t surprise me they performed poorly there and at Europeans. As far as being equals internationally, I don’t agree.

    If he wasn’t injured this is what heir program were already looking like, into the season it would have looked even better. They are still landing the quad.

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    If K/S skated at Russian Nationals with Stolbova and Klimov fighting for that third spot with Bazarova and Larionov (if S/K had not beat B/L by .45) V/T, K/S and B/L would have gone to the Olympics. K/S would have won the team gold because they would have skated in the team free. K/S would have had a great shot at an indi medal, especially of would have look better than they did in August which I’m sure they would have. Just one knee injury really screwed Kavaguti/Smirnov from having a great season. Interesting how things turned out.

    They are by no means out of it for next season and maybe the season after that. I hope Moskvina changes some of the choreography and gets help with their endurance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    wouldn't you know it; you can't see him jump individually
    He was told not to jump in the dark so you wouldn’t have seen him do anything anyway. He is only doing double jumps until April or May under the advice of his doctors. If he is not competing there is no reason to push jumps sooner than next season.

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    I've just found their latest performance's video from "Mishin 73th Birthday Show"(March, 10th?) on You-Tube.
    http://youtu.be/gT8LDoJNrz8

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