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    I honestly think Julia may well crack under the pressure. Moreover, and I'm really serious about this and have heard others speculating on it as well, she has clearly been entering puberty this year and looked more developed at the Grand Prix Final than last summer, so two months could mean changes in her body which could affect her jumps. This is not an issue for any of the other top contenders.

    Overall, I completely agree that if everyone skates clean it will be Yu-Na, Mao, and Carolina on the podium. My gut feeling however is that Mao will beat Yu-Na and that the bronze will go to Carolina unless she has a really disastrous performance and/or others like Julia, Adelina, or Ashley skate the performance of their lives. Bronze may well go to one of the Russian ladies- I agree with PangTong Fan that they are at a big home-ice advantage. However, I also agree with those who say that the advantage as far as scoring goes may also mean they are more susceptible to nerves - exhibit a) Patrick Chan in 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    She has said she doesnt plan to and she plans the Olympics to be her last competition. Who knows, the JSF might push her to skate at Worlds but if Miki Ando is the alternate and she gets to skate with Mao's WD, the ticket selling problem will be solved.
    I heard from a Japanese fan that Mao was definitely going to compete at Worlds, but who knows for sure. I wonder if Yuna doesn't win OGM, will she compete at Worlds?

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    Question:

    I've come to just except it as a fact, that skaters from the host nation will be overscored/favored.

    But why is that, when the judges aren't all from that country to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    If they aren't together then it takes two separate jumping passes. The 2A in sequence is an upgrade to doing 2T with the 3Lo.
    This is why she has disadvantage against 7 triple+2 double axel girls. Her second double axel actually scores less than 2Lo.

    Quote Originally Posted by wordsworthgirl View Post
    I honestly think Julia may well crack under the pressure. Moreover, and I'm really serious about this and have heard others speculating on it as well, she has clearly been entering puberty this year and looked more developed at the Grand Prix Final than last summer, so two months could mean changes in her body which could affect her jumps. This is not an issue for any of the other top contenders.

    Overall, I completely agree that if everyone skates clean it will be Yu-Na, Mao, and Carolina on the podium. My gut feeling however is that Mao will beat Yu-Na and that the bronze will go to Carolina unless she has a really disastrous performance and/or others like Julia, Adelina, or Ashley skate the performance of their lives. Bronze may well go to one of the Russian ladies- I agree with PangTong Fan that they are at a big home-ice advantage. However, I also agree with those who say that the advantage as far as scoring goes may also mean they are more susceptible to nerves - exhibit a) Patrick Chan in 2010.
    Lipnitskaia and Gold probably going to skate at team events. This can help pressure because they will be olympic medalist already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franklin99 View Post
    I heard from a Japanese fan that Mao was definitely going to compete at Worlds, but who knows for sure. I wonder if Yuna doesn't win OGM, will she compete at Worlds?
    No. Yuna made it clear London was it for her.

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    Carolina has told that she will be at worlds, YuNa has told Olympics is her last competition

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    My dream podium:

    Gold - Mao because it has eluded her
    Silver - Yuna because she already has the OGM
    Bronze - Carolina for her perseverance even when almost everyone has counted her out
    4th - Julia because the games are in Russia, so would be nice to have an upcoming star high in the rankings
    5th - Akiko because finishing in the top 5 is a great accomplishment and will mark the end to a great career

    :D

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    Dream Podium:

    Gold: Kim
    Silver: Mao
    Bronze: Murakami

    4th: Suzuki
    5th: Lipnitskaia
    6th: Kostner
    7th: Sotnikova
    8th: Wagner
    9th: Gold
    10th: Li

    One can dream...

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    Podium guesses:

    Unobtainium - Carolina Kostner
    Platinum* - Julia Lipnitskaia
    Gold - Mao Asada
    Silver - Mirai Nagasu
    Bronze - Kaetlyn Osmond

    *In Russia, platinum medal is superior to gold medal

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    My dream podium:
    Gold: Kim
    Silver: Mao
    Bronze: Julia
    4th: Kostner
    5th: Li
    6th: Murakami
    7th: Adelina
    8th: Suzuiki
    9th: Osmond
    10th: Polina Edmunds ( )




    My alternative dream podium:

    Gold: Mao (clean and magnificent)
    Silver: Kim (beautiful but short on points)
    Bronze: Kostner ( beautiful but flawed; a fitting "swan song" )

    4th: Julia ( "The Future" )
    5th: Li ( back with the big girls)
    6th: Suzuki ( she gave it her all )
    7th: Wagner ( almost... )
    8th: Adelina ( I miss YuNa )
    9th: Osmond (because I'm Canadian )
    10th: Gold (she admires Angelina Jolie and that is good enough for me)


    My nightmare podium:

    Gold: Julia ( blatant inflation )
    Silver: Kostner ( inflation and way better at Worlds )
    Bronze: Mao ( unsatisfying way to finish a career )

    4th: Kim (OMG, she missed the podium!!! The sky is falling!!! )
    5th: Adelina (Wth all those falls!? )
    6th: Wagner ( A forgettable performance )
    7th: Gold ( Americans have stopped watching )
    8th: Murakami ( in this competition.....passed over again?! )
    9th: Osmond ( judges decide to be kind. Canada wont be )
    Li drops back into the pack, sigh
    OMG, Suzuki didn't qualify for the FS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elee63 View Post
    Question:

    I've come to just except it as a fact, that skaters from the host nation will be overscored/favored.

    But why is that, when the judges aren't all from that country to begin with?
    I think a large part of that is that the judges are human and they are influenced by the audience reaction. When a skater nails a program in front of a home crowd, the audience applauds wildly and in a way it can make the program seem better than it actually was. Most of the judges don't represent countries who have skaters at the very top so they are genuinely trying to rank the skaters according to which skated the best, so the audience reaction probably plays a role in that. Skaters can sometimes feed off the energy of the crowd too so that can improve their performance, but I do think the audience reaction plays a much bigger role.

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    I think Adelina S. has as good a chance as anyone.

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    ^^^ $omething el$e may play a role that we may never know about...

    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    Ashley can take the bronze only if Julia Lipnitskaia hands it to her. Julia is relatively consistent, but I could see her potentially cracking under pressure in Russia. It's her first really big competition and she's never been to senior Worlds, so it'll be interesting.

    There's been a big reshuffling in the middle ranks of podium contenders since Worlds, and Ashley probably went down a notch.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Oh I agree Julia can beat Ashley outside of Russia for sure, and probably will. Dont get me wrong. However Ashley could atleast think she can beat Julia if she skates great outside of Russia. In Russia she probably wont beat Julia unless she makes unusual mistakes.
    I agree - and just to point out again that Julia DID beat Ashley outside of Russia already - at the GPF which was held not in Russia, not in the U.S. but Japan - as neutral a country as could be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadia01 View Post
    No. Yuna made it clear London was it for her.
    London?

    My dream podium will never come true because ties are not allowed. Sigh...

    But I'll lay it down for posterity anyhow!

    Gold: Mirai

    Silver: Yuna

    Bronze: Julia/Mao

    Yet another dream, closer to reality:

    Gold: Julia (I love it when child/women win the Olympics)

    Silver: Yuna

    Bronze: Mirai :D

    Alternate dream:

    Gold: Mao/Yuna (tie)

    no silver awarded

    Bronze: Julia/Adelina

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    Quote Originally Posted by RABID View Post
    My nightmare podium:

    Gold: Julia ( blatant inflation )
    Silver: Kostner ( inflation and way better at Worlds )
    Bronze: Mao ( unsatisfying way to finish a career )

    4th: Kim (OMG, she missed the podium!!! The sky is falling!!! )
    Fortunately for you, this will not happen. Barring a complete nuclear meltdown, Yuna and Mao will take the top two spots. To put it in perspective, in their last competition Yuna and Mao made visible errors in both their SP and LP. Nonetheless, their total score was higher not only than any other total score by any other skater, but also taking the sum of any skater's personal best SP and LP score among all international competitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha'sSpins View Post

    I agree - and just to point out again that Julia DID beat Ashley outside of Russia already - at the GPF which was held not in Russia, not in the U.S. but Japan - as neutral a country as could be.

    Very true, but to be fair that was a case where Ashley handed that one over to Julia. Ashley forked over at least 7 points in TES alone... Judging by the SP scores and the PCS in the FS, if Ashley hadn't made as many mistakes as she did (quite a few considering Julia was nearly clean), she'd have beaten Julia at the GPF.

    In Russia, however, I think Ashley will have a much much tougher time beating Julia.

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