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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    I dont get the love for Martiusheva/Rogonov - 4th or 5th really?
    When they're on, they're stunning. When they make mistakes, they're still stunning

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    Quote Originally Posted by 96skiluvr View Post
    When they're on, they're stunning. When they make mistakes, they're still stunning
    with botched twists and inconsistent jumps will still place 4th or 5th ? sorry
    they will be lucky to place in Top 8, these teams can and will surpass them

    Vigalova/Zakroev
    Tarasova/Morosov
    Fedrova/Miroshkin
    Gerboldt/Enbert

    at least they will probably pass Davankova/Deputat
    whose height similarity will probably be their last season
    with Davankova's pending retirement ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    with botched twists and inconsistent jumps will still place 4th or 5th ? sorry
    they will be lucky to place in Top 8, these teams can and will surpass them

    Vigalova/Zakroev
    Tarasova/Morosov
    Fedrova/Miroshkin
    Gerboldt/Enbert

    at least they will probably pass Davankova/Deputat
    whose height similarity will probably be their last season
    with Davankova's pending retirement ?
    I agree that Martiusheva/Rogonov are very inconsistent, but I do understand why some posters puts them so high. I love watching them too. (although I don't think they will manage to place as high as 4-5).

    But the list of the pairs you believe will score higher than M/R, I really can't see why would you list there Gerboldt/Enbert! Not only M/R did manage to beat them in one competition this autumn, but G/E have not exactly been very good this season, and unlike M/R, G/E don't even deserve higher TES because apart of elements their program is quite empty and they look quite sloppy. So why would you think they will surpass M/R?

    In regards to Davankova/Deputat splitting, I think you have forecasted it for a while and it hasn't happened yet. In fact, they did achieve second highest total score from Russian junior pairs in their JGP event, easily beating Tarasova/Morozov and Fedorova/Miroshkin. If you want to rely on your forecasting skills, maybe don't quit your day job!

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    Men:

    1. Evgeni Plushenko
    2. Maxim Kovtun
    3. Artur Gachinski
    4. Konstantin Menshov
    5. Sergei Voronov
    6. Adian Pitkeev

    Ladies:

    1. Julia Lipnitskaia
    2. Adelina Sotnikova
    3. Elena Radionova
    4. Serafima Sakhanovich
    5. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    6. Evgenia Medvedeva

    Pairs:

    1. Bazarova/Larionov
    2. Stolbova/Klimov
    3. Fedorova/Miroshkin
    4. Antipova/Maisuradze
    5. Tarasova/Morozov
    6. Martyusheva/Rogonov

    Ice Dance:

    1. Bobrova/Soloviev
    2. Ilinykh/Katsalapov
    3. Monko/Khaliavin
    4. Stepanova/Bukin
    5. Riazanova/Tkachenko
    6. Sinitsina/Zhiganshin

    (Oh, my... I don't care if I get Every. Single. Other. Prediction wrong - if I just get one particular one right... Oh, I'm so nervous!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    In regards to Davankova/Deputat splitting, I think you have forecasted it for a while and it hasn't happened yet. In fact, they did achieve second highest total score from Russian junior pairs in their JGP event, easily beating Tarasova/Morozov and Fedorova/Miroshkin. If you want to rely on your forecasting skills, maybe don't quit your day job!
    Well, to be fair, though - if you keep repeating something it's bound to come true some time or other. I mean, if they retire in - oh, I don't know - 10-15 years or so, sky_fly20 could still say: "See! Told you they wouldn't last, didn't I?"

    As for Martiusheva/Rogonov... There's just something so darn likeable about them - at least that's how I feel. I kept putting them a bit optimistically high on the GP predictions - but oh, well... Never mind.

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    Ladies
    1.) Julia Lipnitskaia
    2.) Elena Radionova
    3.) Anna Pogorilaya
    4.) Adelina Sotnikova
    5.) Elizaveta Tuktamysheva

    6.) Serafima Sakhanovich

    Men:
    1.) Maxim Kovtun
    2.) Evgeny Plushenko
    3.) Sergei Voronov
    4.) Konstantin Menshov
    5.) Artur Dmitriev Jr.

    6.) Adian Pitkeev

    (Evgeny Plushenko misses his SP, sees no chance of winning and then makes a press release saying "ouch!" and retires AGAIN)

    Pairs:
    1.) Stolbova / Klimov
    2.) Antipova / Maisuradze
    3.) Bazarova / Larionov (yeah, yeah, the russian federation will inflate their scores like crazy, but there's only so much they can do)
    4.) Davankova / Deputat
    5.) Fedorova / Miroshkin

    6.) Gerboldt / Enbert

    Dance:
    1.) Ilinykh / Katsalapov (yes, this proves that I have nothing to lose! )
    2.) Bobrova / Soloviev (2 mistakes in the SD and 1 in the FD would help!) *
    3.) Sinitsina / Zhiganshin (Olympic experience for a promising pair of the future, rather than Ria/Tka who've been written off anyway)
    4.) Riazanova / Tkachenko
    5.) Monko / Khaliavin

    6.) Stepanova / Bukin

    * if you think about it: Bobrova/Soloviev already have such a negative reputation for this year (bad, bad free dance; everybody expects "russian federation is only pushing their scores anyway",...) that giving the win to Ilynikh/Katsalapov would make for a big "wow!" in the figure skating community, and would give THEM a boost during the Olympics. I know, I'm delusional, but I'd really like that.
    Speaking of bad, bad free dance: Ilynikh/Katsalapov do NOT have one of those! Their Swan Lake is a beauty!
    It allowed them to beat Pechalat/Bourzat. In France!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDWI0SnbLA
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    Just to make sure that I don't forget to post them, here are my predictions:
    MEN
    1) Evgeni Plushenko (no way he can lose in Russia with PCS around 45 in the SP and 90+ in the FS)
    2) Maxim kovtun
    3) Sergei Voronov
    4) konstantin Menshov
    5) Artur gachinski
    alt. Adian Pitkeev

    LADIES
    1) Julia Lipnitskaya
    2) Adelina Sotnikova (please please please don't bomb the FS!!)
    3) Elena Radionova
    4) Anna Pogorilaya
    5) Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    alt. Serafima Sakhanovich

    PAIRS (VERY difficult)
    1) Stolbova/Klimov
    2) Bazarova/Larionov
    3) Antipova/Maisuradze
    4) Tarasova/Morozov
    5) Gerboldt/Enbert
    Alt. Davankova/Deputat

    ICE DANCE
    1) Bobrova/Soloviev
    2) Ilynikh/Katsalapov
    3) Riazanova/Tkachenko
    4) Monko/Khaliavin
    5) Sinitsina/Zhiganshin
    alt. Stepanova/Bukin

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    Ladies:
    1. Julia Lipnitskaya
    2. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    3. Elena Radionova
    4. Adelina Sotnikova
    5. Anna Pogorilaya

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    I agree that Martiusheva/Rogonov are very inconsistent, but I do understand why some posters puts them so high. I love watching them too. (although I don't think they will manage to place as high as 4-5).

    But the list of the pairs you believe will score higher than M/R, I really can't see why would you list there Gerboldt/Enbert! Not only M/R did manage to beat them in one competition this autumn, but G/E have not exactly been very good this season, and unlike M/R, G/E don't even deserve higher TES because apart of elements their program is quite empty and they look quite sloppy. So why would you think they will surpass M/R?

    In regards to Davankova/Deputat splitting, I think you have forecasted it for a while and it hasn't happened yet. In fact, they did achieve second highest total score from Russian junior pairs in their JGP event, easily beating Tarasova/Morozov and Fedorova/Miroshkin. If you want to rely on your forecasting skills, maybe don't quit your day job!
    likeable to watch , thats it, the only reason ? even at the GP they got hammered by the judges in PCS clearly they don't agree
    Martiusheva/Rogonov are legends of headcases, 5th or 6th place prediction list for them are laughable more like 7th or 8th

    Davankova is only turning 16 but is tall for a pairs skater now, if she even grows another cm then they're done
    also the golden rule for Pairs: Similar heights have no future same for Ice Dancing

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    Just a quick heads up to something that sky_fly20 posted in the entries thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Martiusheva/Rogonov out as she has apparently suffered a knee injury, very bad luck for her

    https://twitter.com/Tatjana21
    Well, that's my predictions going to have to be changed (again!) before I post them!

    Does that mean Kawaguchi/Smirnov are in...?


    Unfortunately, there is still no sign of a Results Page, and hence a SP Starting order.

    So, since we are going to have to get our new predictions worked out soon, I have gone on ahead and put the ISU Bio links up anyway.

    There were a few changes in partnerships in the Nationals entry list compared to the ISU Bio list, so here are the Bios I have used.

    Pairs:
    Kristina ASTAKHOVA (with Nikita BOCHKOV)
    Maxim KURDYUKOV (with Ekaterina PETAIKINA)
    Yuri SHEVCHUK (with Alexandra VASILIEVA)

    Hope this helps

    CaroLiza_fan

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    just to remind everyone predicting:

    Martiusheva/Rogonov have withdrawn because of Martiusheva's hip injury
    they will be replaced by alternates: Gubanova/Sintsov

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    Picking my Top 6 in each category was not too bad. The only problem was that two of the entries I would have picked as Top 6 are down as Alternates!

    In fact, had they not been Alternates, I would have put Polina K as my number 6 choice in Ladies, and Kawaguchi/Smirnov as my number 3 choice in Pairs!

    I haven’t heard of any of the Ladies withdrawing so far, and even if they did today, it would probably be too late to let Polina K in. And I assume Yuko hasn’t got over her injury yet, as the other Alternate Pairs couple (Gubanova/Sintsov) were brought in when Martyusheva/Rogonov (who had been my number 3 choice) withdrew.

    But picking the “just for fun” extras that I like to do was a lot harder than I was expecting. In the Ladies, there were too many skaters that I like! And too many Juniors that I haven’t seen before, but who have big PB’s!

    And as for the other categories, there were too many that I had never heard tell of before!

    I don't like doing it like this, but in the end, for the skaters I had never seen before (or never heard tell of), the "just for fun" predictions were largely based on PB's!

    Thank goodness it’s just the top 5 that score!

    CaroLiza_fan


    Entries

    Ladies:

    1. Julia LIPNITSKAYA
    2. Adelina SOTNIKOVA
    3. Elena RADIONOVA
    4. Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA
    5. Anna POGORILAYA
    6. Alena LEONOVA
    * If somebody withdraws and Polina Korobeynikova is let in, can I have her as my number 6 instead of Alena Leonova, please?

    Just for fun
    7. Polina AGAFONOVA
    8. Seraphima SAKHANOVICH
    9. Nikol GOSVIANI
    10. Sofia BIRYUKOVA
    11. Alexandra PROKLOVA
    12. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
    13. Maria ARTEMYEVA
    14. Anna SHERSHAK
    15. Alsou KAYUMOVA
    16. Daria PERVUSHKINA
    17. Alina MAXIMOVA
    18. Diana SHAMSUTDINOVA


    Men:

    1. Evgeny PLUSHENKO
    2. Maxim KOVTUN
    3. Konstantin MENSHOV
    4. Sergei VORONOV
    5. Artur GACHINSKI
    6. Mikhail KOLYADA

    Just for fun
    7. Zhan BUSH
    8. Adian PITKEEV
    9. Alexander PETROV
    10. Artur DMITRIEV Jr.
    11. Moris KVITELASHVILI
    12. Alexander SAMARIN
    13. Gordei GORSHKOV
    14. Murad KURBANOV
    15. Andrei LAZUKIN
    16. Seregy BORODULLIN
    17. Vladislav SEZGANOV
    18. Konstantin MILYUKOV


    Pairs:

    1. Vera BAZAROVA / Yuri LARIONOV
    2. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
    3. Julia ANTIPOVA / Nodari MAISURADZE
    4. Katarina GERBOLDT / Alexander ENBERT
    5. Lina FEDOROVA / Maxim MIROSHKIN
    6. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV

    Just for fun
    7. Maria VIGALOVA / Egor ZAKROEV
    8. Vasilisa DAVANKOVA / Andrei DEPUTAT
    9. Christina ASTAKHOVA / Maxim KUDRYUKOV
    10. Alexandra MININA / Semei STEPANOV
    11. Natalia MITINA / Yuri SHEVCHUK
    12. Anastasia GUBANOVA / Alex SINTSOV


    Dance:

    1. Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV
    2. Elena ILINYKH / Nikita KATSALAPOV
    3. Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO
    4. Ksenia MONKO / Kiril KHALIAVIN
    5. Victoria SINITSINA / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN
    6. Ekaterina PUSKASH / Jonathan GUERREIRO

    Just for fun
    7. Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN
    8. Valeria ZENKOVA / Valery SINITSIN
    9. Svetlana KOMYAKOVA / Nikita SHUBO
    10. Angelica KANIVETS / Alexei CHIZHOV

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    Final Prediction after practice skates:

    Men

    1 Evgeni Plushenko
    2 Maxim Kovtun
    3 Sergei Voronov
    4 Konstantin Menshov
    5 Adian Pitkeev
    6 Moris Kvitelashvili

    Ladies
    1 Adelina Sotnikova
    2 Julia Lipnitskaya
    3 Elena Radionova
    4 Anna Pogorilaya
    5 Serafima Sakahnovich
    6 Alena Leonova

    Pairs

    1 Stolbova/Klimov
    2 Bazarova/Larionov
    3 Antipova/Maisuradze
    4 Fedorova/Miroshkin
    5 Vigalova/Zakroev
    6 Tarasova/Morosov

    Ice Dance
    1 Ilinykh/Katsalapov
    2 Bobrova/Soloviev
    3 Riazanova/Tkachenko
    4 Sinitsina/Zhiagnshin
    5 Stepanova/Bukin
    6 Monko/Khaliavin

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    Men
    1. Evgeny Plushenko
    2. Maxim Kovtun
    3. Konstantin Menshov
    4. Sergei Voronov
    5. Artur Gachinski
    6. Adien Pitkeev
    7. Mikhail Kolyada

    Ladies
    1. Julia Lipnitskaia
    2. Elena Radionova
    3. Adelina Sotnikova
    4. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    5. Anna Pogorilaya
    6. Alena Leonova

    Pairs
    1. Vera Bazarova / Yuri Larionov
    2. Ksenia Stolbova / Fedor Klimov
    3. Julia Antipova / Nodari Maisuradze
    4. Maria Vigalova / Egor Zakroev
    5. Lina Fedorova / Maxim Miroshkin
    6. Vasilisa Davankova / Andrei Deputat

    Ice dance
    1. Ekaterina Bobrova / Dmitri Soloviev
    2. Elena Ilinykh / Nikita Katsalapov
    3. Ekaterina Riazanova / Ilia Tkachenko
    4. Victoria Sinitsina / Ruslan Zhiganshin
    5. Ksenia Monko / Kirill Khaliavin
    6. Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin

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    1.Julia Lipniskia
    2.Elena Radionova
    3.Adelina Sotnikova
    4.Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    5.Anna Pogorilaya

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