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    Adam Rippon - will surprise at nationals
    Jeremy Abbott - will surprise
    Jason Brown - will be in the top
    Joshua Farris - enough talent and adequate support to skate well
    Max Aaron - stressed, will not do well
    Ross Miner - failure at nationals

    Ashley Wagner - two beautiful skates will ensure she wins
    Mirai Nagasu - amazing skates that will be labelled a huge comeback - prelude to Olympics
    Gracie Gold - pressure will lead to falls and mistakes
    Samantha Cesario - pressure and lack of support
    Christina Gao - too much pressure
    Agnes Zawadski - too little support from fed/fans

    Davis/White - WR, NR in individual competition scores and overall score - improved and perfect programs with more fluidity - prelude to OGM hopefully
    Shibutani/Shibutani - great improvement and nice scores
    Hubbell/Donohue - chemistry with each other
    Chock/Bates - not good enough
    Aldridge/Eaton - nice skates and great impressions
    Kiriengkrairut/Giulietti-Schmitt - not good enough again, split or retirement

    Denney/Coughlin - impressive, massive scores
    Scimeca/Knierim - great outings for them
    Donlan/Speroff - great outings for them
    Castelli/Shnapir - if they cannot communicate or control the pressure - implosion
    Zhang/Bartholomay - okay, should think about a coaching change
    Deney/Frazier - okay, should think about a change in technique/program style

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    Here is a top of the most interesting US ladies in my opinion. It is not a prediction, but more of a wish.

    1. Ashley - her SP is the best, her LP is her weakness, I doubt she will skate it clean but with one or 2 minor mistakes. she should be more confident on her jumps, that with let her feel the program more.
    2. Christina - it will not happen but I like her both SP and LP, more than Gracie's or Mirai's who I think will be in front of her. and unfortunately she will not receive the PCS she deserves, her only chance is to skate clean (a very little one). I hope she can peak at nationals and get rid of the 5th place curse.
    3. Gracie - I haven't seen her new SP, I didn't like the old one much but not because of the music or choregraphy but because she didn't feel it, she executed everything perfectly but in the end there was no thrill. Her LP is awful. I like Gracie, her jumps and spins, but I have the feeling that this year is not a good one for her.
    4. Mirai - I wouldn't have said it at the beginning of the season, I gave up on her since the last 2 seasons, but I really hope she can make a come back this year.
    5. Samantha - I like her so much! She must be a little rough and inexperienced as a senior but she is such a pleasure to watch. I think a 5th place will secure her a trip to 4CC. Of course I wouldn't mind her making the team but I don't think she's ready yet for the big scene and doesn't receive the support she needs form the US federation. Just like Gao.
    6. Polina - very elegant and the one to watch for the future
    7. Courtney - I used to like her as a junior in her first year, but now as a senior I really don't. But the US fed seems to like her, at least last year liked her enough to put her in 4th place.
    8. Angela - I would surely love to see her place higher, this girl has the potential to win this competition and do well on the international senior scene, if she weren't such a headcase. There, I said it, I hate this word, never used it before but Angela really makes me mad. She had so many chances and ruined them all.
    9. Agnes - ... I got nothing to say. I see nothing in her. She will surely place higher, God knows why.
    10. Mariah Bell.

    I hope Rippon makes the team and wins the competition. This is his moment.
    In dance this year I like Hubbel and Donohue. Last year I was very impressed by Chock and Bates but his year I don't know what happened, the magic was lost.
    In pairs I don't like Denney & Coughlin, I think they are over scored. I like Castelli and Shnapir but more because of Marissa, Shnapir is awful.

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    why are people forgetting ashley cain and hannah miller but remembering polina edmunds with the ladies?

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    Maybe because Hannah Miller had a bad season due to injury. I don't think she will make top 10 at nationals. And even last year when she had her good season she placed very low. I am not a fan anyway, I see her in the same category with Leah Keiser and Barbie Long. Polina Edmunds is much more classy and mature than any of these. She made mistakes in her short program at JGPF but had the second best LP.
    About Ashley Cain, you are right. After posting I just realize that I missed her, not forget about her. I had her in my mind for the top 10. The thing is that until Nebelhorn I had no idea who Ashley Cain is and why she was sent to that competition instead of other girls who were more known. I think there are not many people who really noticed her. But she made quite an impression, her skating doesn't look 15 at all. I really hope she will place good and receive JGP next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IleK View Post
    Maybe because Hannah Miller had a bad season due to injury. I don't think she will make top 10 at nationals. And even last year when she had her good season she placed very low. I am not a fan anyway, I see her in the same category with Leah Keiser and Barbie Long. Polina Edmunds is much more classy and mature than any of these. She made mistakes in her short program at JGPF but had the second best LP.
    About Ashley Cain, you are right. After posting I just realize that I missed her, not forget about her. I had her in my mind for the top 10. The thing is that until Nebelhorn I had no idea who Ashley Cain is and why she was sent to that competition instead of other girls who were more known. I think there are not many people who really noticed her. But she made quite an impression, her skating doesn't look 15 at all. I really hope she will place good and receive JGP next year.
    I also hope Ashley Cain does well and places top 8, which I think she can do. If I'm remembering correctly, she has already skated on the JGP and would like to see her stay senior and skate more senior Bs and maybe a GP or two if possible (she'd be a good one for a Skate America host pick). Out of the other skaters you mentioned, I agree that Polina is the most put together and polished skater and therefore probably has the most potential. If you look at the technical numbers, she has a good edge over most ladies in this field. I actually see her doing very well this year (perhaps on the podium) because she isn't in the spotlight and has less pressure to do well. I root for Leah Keiser mostly because she's from Pittsburgh, my hometown. Barbie is a good skater with some nice qualities but for some reason just doesn't capture my attention. I hope Hannah Miller has recovered. Her twitter posts lead me to believe training has been going well and she had the highest score of all senior ladies at Sectionals. For some reason I really enjoy watching her.

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    Here are my predictions (which have some of my hopes in there too):

    Ladies:
    1.Wagner (clearly no 1 in US right now)
    2. Gold (I think having more time to train with Frank will benefit her)
    3. Edmunds (going out on a limb here but she has the technical potential, is rather polished/elegant for a skater just out of juniors, and doesn't have as much pressure as many of her competitors to do well here. having done junior FS all season might limit her but I think the US needs to start building toward 2018 now)
    4. Zawadski (will have great SP, fall apart in FS)
    5. Hicks (technical content, but low PCS; I just don't really enjoy watching her skate, love watching her jump though)
    6. Cesario (great performance, maybe not the best technical content, thinking she'll do fairly well)

    Men
    1. Rippon (I think it's his year)
    2. Brown (Even without a quad he will outskate his competitors and entertain us all along the way)
    3. Aaron (pressure of defending his title will get to him but he's a fighter so he will still do fairly well)
    4. Farris (Less pressure than other competitors, has good tech abilities and decent PCS)
    5. Abbott (I'm guessing he will pop a lot of jumps and just not skate to his potential, hoping he proves me wrong though, would like to see him at one last olympics)
    6. Dornbush (tech content but limited by PCS)

    Ice Dance
    1. Davis/White (sheer brilliance)
    2. Shibutanis (have made changes to improve MJ program, probably will perfrom well in front of a big crowd)
    3. Chock/Bates (have had decent season)
    4. Hubbell/Donahue (would LOVE to see them at the olympics, but I'm not sure how they'll do with her injury
    5. Lynn/Logan (love them but I just don't see them placing higher than 4th but that's only with mistakes from one of the above teams)
    6. Aldridge/Eaton (first senior season but have a lot of potential)

    Pairs
    1. Denney/Coughlin (thinking they will have the edge with PCS)
    2. Scimeca/Knierim (love this team, really hoping they can manage this, have more experience than they did last year)
    3. Castelli/Shnapir (pressure of skating in front of home crowd, won last year due to SP lead and, in my opinion, being pre-event favorites with D/C out)
    4. Denney/Frasier (I think they have improved from last year and want to prove themselves, have been together a while)
    5. Zhang/Bartholomay (nice team, but they don't really stick out in my mind)
    6. Donlan/Speroff (beautiful team but tech/mistakes could really hold them back)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyAFan View Post
    I also hope Ashley Cain does well and places top 8, which I think she can do. If I'm remembering correctly, she has already skated on the JGP and would like to see her stay senior and skate more senior Bs and maybe a GP or two if possible (she'd be a good one for a Skate America host pick). Out of the other skaters you mentioned, I agree that Polina is the most put together and polished skater and therefore probably has the most potential. If you look at the technical numbers, she has a good edge over most ladies in this field. I actually see her doing very well this year (perhaps on the podium) because she isn't in the spotlight and has less pressure to do well. I root for Leah Keiser mostly because she's from Pittsburgh, my hometown. Barbie is a good skater with some nice qualities but for some reason just doesn't capture my attention. I hope Hannah Miller has recovered. Her twitter posts lead me to believe training has been going well and she had the highest score of all senior ladies at Sectionals. For some reason I really enjoy watching her.
    Here is an article I've just read about Ashley Cain. http://www.absoluteskating.com/inter...shleycain.html Very nice, so she is 18? At Nebelhorn they said she was 15, I had my doubts because she was just too polished for 15. Then, you are right, we must see her in the senior circuit next year, with at least one GP.
    About Hannah, she also has a nice presentation, it is just that I don't see her doing better than she did last season when she won silver at JGPF. This is why I said I see her in the same category with Leah Keiser and Barbie Long. I don't see these 2 breaking the ice at the senior level. Anyway, it makes me said to see how much damage an injury can do to someone's skating. It is not fair to get injured at such an young age. It can break your wings and make you quit. I hope Hannah will recover.
    Polina and Ashley can be the big surprises at these nationals. I still have hopes for the american ladies, they were always the attraction for me in figure skating. Although the russian ladies are quite impressing, I still like better the american style

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    Ah, better get this done before I forget entirely...

    Men:

    1. Adam Rippon
    2. Jason Brown
    3. Max Aaron
    4. Jeremy Abbott
    5. Joshua Farris
    6. Ross Miner

    Ladies:

    1. Ashley Wagner
    2. Gracie Gold
    3. Christina Gao
    4. Mirai Nagasu
    5. Polina Edmunds
    6. Samantha Cesario

    Pairs:

    1. Denney/Coughlin
    2. Scimeca/Knierim
    3. Castelli/Shnapir
    4. Davis/Brubaker
    5. Denney/Frazier
    6. Zhang/Barholomay

    Ice Dance:

    1. Davis/White
    2. Chock/Bates
    3. Shibutani/Shibutani
    4. Hubbell/Donohue
    5. Aldridge/Eaton
    6. Kriengkrairut/Giulietti-Schmidt

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    Quote Originally Posted by IleK View Post
    Here is an article I've just read about Ashley Cain. http://www.absoluteskating.com/inter...shleycain.html Very nice, so she is 18? At Nebelhorn they said she was 15, I had my doubts because she was just too polished for 15. Then, you are right, we must see her in the senior circuit next year, with at least one GP.
    About Hannah, she also has a nice presentation, it is just that I don't see her doing better than she did last season when she won silver at JGPF. This is why I said I see her in the same category with Leah Keiser and Barbie Long. I don't see these 2 breaking the ice at the senior level. Anyway, it makes me said to see how much damage an injury can do to someone's skating. It is not fair to get injured at such an young age. It can break your wings and make you quit. I hope Hannah will recover.
    Polina and Ashley can be the big surprises at these nationals. I still have hopes for the american ladies, they were always the attraction for me in figure skating. Although the russian ladies are quite impressing, I still like better the american style
    Thanks for that article! Unfortunately she tweeted yesterday that she has been battling a virus, but hopefully she'll be ready to go by the end of the week!

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    Men
    1. Adam Rippon
    2. Jason Brown
    3. Jeremy Abbott
    4. Max Aaron
    5. Joshua Farris
    6. Ross Miner

    Ladies
    1. Ashley Wagner
    2. Gracie Gold
    3. Christina Gao
    4. Samantha Cesario
    5. Mirai Nagasu
    6. Polina Edmunds

    Pairs
    1. Caydee Denney / John Coughlin
    2. Alexa Scimeca / Chris Knierim
    3. Marissa Castelli / Simon Shnapir
    4. Haven Denney / Brandon Frazier
    5. Felicia Zhang / Nathan Bartholomay
    6. Lindsay Davis / Rockne Brubaker

    Ice dance
    1. Meryl Davis / Charlie White
    2. Madison Chock / Evan Bates
    3. Maia Shibutani / Alex Shibutani
    4. Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue
    5. Alexandra Aldridge / Daniel Eaton
    6. Lynn Kriengkrairut / Logan Giulietti-Smith

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    Ladies
    1.) Ashley Wagner
    2.) Gracie Gold (not sure if she'll deserve it)
    3.) Christina Gao
    4.) Polina Edmunds (Just switched it! I just read she did a 3Lz3T and 3F1/2Lo3S in practice. Hey, I'm French, you should expect me to be a surrender monkey!)
    5.) Mirai Nagasu
    6.) Agnes Zawadski (not sure if she'll deserve it)

    Men
    1.) Adam Rippon
    2.) Jeremy Abbott (no, i'm not cray cray. mainly because of his exogenesis lp. he should pull a Brown and skate clean without a quad)
    3.) Max Aaron (idk if he'll finish 2nd or 4th, so this seems to be the best spot to put him!)
    4.) Jason Brown
    5.) Joshua Farris
    6.) Richard Dornbush

    Pairs
    1.) Denney/Coughlin
    2.) Castelli/Shnapir (sorry, but despite her spark, they look more like a baby-long-throwing contestant than a figure skating pair. but there's the quad)
    3.) Scimeca/Knierim (they seem so shaky this season. but i'd love to be wrong!)
    4.) Davis/Brubaker
    5.) Donlan/Speroff
    6.) Denney/Frazier

    Dance
    1.) Davis/White (as many have stated: duh!)
    2.) Shibutanis
    3.) Chock/Bates
    4.) Hubbell/Donohue
    5.) Aldridge/Eaton
    6.) Kriengkrairut/Giulieti-Schmitt

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    Men
    1. Rippon
    2. Abbott
    3. Aaron
    4. Brown
    5. Miner
    6. Farris

    Ladies
    1. Wagner
    2. Gold
    3. Nagasu
    4. Gao
    5. Zawadski
    6. Cesario

    Pairs
    1. Denney/Coughlin
    2. Castelli/Shnapir
    3. Scimeca/Knierim
    4. Zhang/Bartholomay
    5. Denney/Frazier
    6. Donlan/Speroff

    Dance
    1. Davis/White
    2. Shibutani/Shibutani
    3. Chock/Bates
    4. Hubbell/Donohue
    5. Kriengkrairut/Giulietti-Schmitt
    6. Aldridge/Eaton

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    i do think hannah will stay top 10, she definitely should with 2 clean skates. i'm not saying that as a club mate; she had two AMAZING skates at sectionals and i think many people are forgetting she had the highest short, long, and combined scores of all senior ladies of all sections...her injury is healed up and she is trained. if she has clean skates here she should be in the mix for sure...she even had mistakes at sectionals and scored well. but i can tell you that girl will definitely not quit...being in a boot for a couple months only made her want it more i think!

    i just hope everyone does well, scoring is fair, and spots are given to those who are deserving!

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    I think I have done something that is very dangerous in the Ladies category. I have gone with my heart rather than my head with my 6th position/alternate choice. I just love Ashley Cain and, although it might be asking too much, it would be great if she got as high as 6th.

    And it really pains me to put Caroline Zhang and Rachel Flatt outside the Top 10. But, there are just too many good skaters competing that are capable of getting in the Top 10, so some of them have to miss out. And unfortunately these are the 2 that seem to be on a downward curve…

    I also took a chance in the Men’s by putting Miner and Abbott in 6th and 7th. Both could very easily get on the podium, but I feel that the younger skaters that I put in my Top 5 have the edge on the old guard.

    In Pairs and Dance, the choices I have made for the Top 6 are actually the only ones I have seen before! So, my “just for fun” choices are purely by PB’s!

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    Ladies:

    1. Ashley Wagner (SC of Wilmington)
    2. Gracie Gold (Wagon Wheel FSC)
    3. Christina Gao (SC of Boston)
    4. Mirai Nagasu (Pasadena FSC)
    5. Samantha Cesario (SC of New York)
    6. Ashley Cain (Stars FSC of Texas)

    Just for fun
    7. Polina Edmunds (Peninsula SC)
    8. Hannah Miller (Lansing SC)
    9. Agnes Zawadzki (Broadmoor SC)
    10. Courtney Hicks (All Year FSC)
    11. Caroline Zhang (All Year FSC)
    12. Angela Wang (Salt Lake Figure Skating)
    13. Rachael Flatt (St. Moritz ISC)
    14. Yasmin Siraj (SC of Boston)
    15. Vanessa Lam (All Year FSC)
    16. Leah Keiser (All Year FSC)
    17. Mariah Bell (Rocky Mountain FSC)
    18. Barbie Long (Illinois Valley FSC)
    19. Kiri Baga (SC of Boston)
    20. Joelle Forte (SC of New York)
    21. Franchesca Chiera (Panthers FSC)


    Men:

    1. Jason Brown (Skokie Valley SC)
    2. Max Aaron (Broadmoor SC)
    3. Adam Rippon (The SC of New York)
    4. Joshua Farris (Broadmoor SC)
    5. Richard Dornbush (All Year FSC)
    6. Ross Miner (SC of Boston)

    Just for fun
    7. Jeremy Abbott (Detroit SC)
    8. Brandon Mroz (Broadmoor SC)
    9. Stephen Carriere (The SC of Boston)
    10. Keegan Messing (Alaska Assoc. of Figure Skaters)
    11. Grant Hochstein (The SC of New York)
    12. Douglas Razzano (Coyotes SC of Arizona)
    13. Timothy Dolensky (Atlanta FSC)
    14. Philip Warren (All Year FSC)
    15. Lukas Kaugars (Broadmoor SC)
    16. Scott Dyer (Brooklyn FSC of Ohio)
    17. Sean Rabbitt (Glacier Falls FSC)
    18. Daniel Raad (Southwest Florida FSC)
    19. Robert Przepioski (Rochester FSC)


    Pairs:

    1. Caydee Denney (Broadmoor SC)/John Coughlin (Kansas City FSC)
    2. Marissa Castelli (The SC of Boston)/Simon Shnapir (The SC of Boston)
    3. Alexa Scimeca (DuPage FSC)/Chris Knierim (Broadmoor SC)
    4. Felicia Zhang (SC of New York)/Nathan Bartholomay (Southwest Florida FSC)
    5. Haven Denney (Panthers FSC)/Brandon Frazier (All Year FSC)
    6. Lindsay Davis (All Year FSC)/Rockne Brubaker (All Year FSC)

    Just for fun
    7. Jessica Noelle Calalang (DuPage FSC)/Zack Sidhu (Las Vegas FSC)
    8. Gretchen Donlan (The SC of Boston)/Andrew Speroff (The SC of Boston)
    9. Jessica Pfund (Broadmoor SC)/AJ Reiss (Los Angeles FSC)
    10. Tarah Kayne (Southwest Florida FSC)/Daniel O’Shea (Skokie Valley FSC)
    11. DeeDee Leng (DuPage FSC)/Timothy LeDuc (Eastern Iowa FSC)
    12. Alexandra Shaughnessy (SC of Boston)/James Morgan (SC of Boston)


    Dance:

    1. Meryl Davis (Arctic FSC)/Charlie White (Detroit SC)
    2. Madison Chock (All Year FSC)/Evan Bates (Ann Arbor FSC)
    3. Madison Hubbell (Detroit SC)/Zachary Donohue (Detroit SC)
    4. Maia Shibutani (The SC of New York)/Alex Shibutani (Arctic FSC)
    5. Alexandra Aldridge (Detroit SC)/Daniel Eaton (Detroit SC)
    6. Lynn Kriengkrairut (All Year FSC)/Logan Giulietti-Schmitt (Ann Arbor FSC)

    Just for fun
    7. Anastasia Cannuscio (University of Delaware FSC)/Colin McManus (SC of Boston)
    8. Anastasia Olson (Detroit SC)/Ian Lorello (Detroit SC)*
    9. Isabella Cannuscio (Univ. of Delaware FSC)/Michael Bramante (The SC of Boston)*
    10. Madeline Heritage (University ISC of San Jose)/Nathaniel Fast (University ISC of San Jose)
    11. Danielle Gamelin (The SC of New York)/Alexander Gamelin (The SC of New York)
    12. Gabriela Morrell Zucker (All Year FSC)/Andrejs Sitiks (Gardens FSC of Maryland)*
    13. Alissandra Aronow (Arctic FSC)/Collin Brubaker (All Year FSC)
    14. Ginna Hoptman (IceWorks SC)/Pavel Filchenkov (IceWorks SC)
    15. Kristen Nardozzi (Stars FSC of Texas)/Nick Traxler (Stars FSC of Texas)
    16. Kseniya Ponomaryova (Skokie Valley SC)/Oleg Altukhov (Escondido FSC)
    17. Elicia Reynolds (IceWorks SC)/Stephen Reynolds (IceWorks SC)
    18. Pauline Bynum (All Year FSC)/Jason Deveikis (Ann Arbor FSC)

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    THIS IS YOUR SEVEN HOUR WARNING.

    You have just 7 hours left to get your predictions in, i.e. until 15:15 EST (20:15 GMT)

    I'm off to work out my Canadian predictions.

    By the way, I am going away tomorrow, so although I will probably get the first warning posted, there will be no final warning or time up notification.

    CaroLiza_fan

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