1. In the first incarnation of Gracie Gold's LP last season she had 3Lz+3T and 3F+1Lo+3S combos but with all the other requirements included and the pressure of competition, she was having a hard time skating clean competitively so they went back to 3+3 and 2A+3. She was also working on 2A+1Lo+3F and 3Lz+1Lo+3F this past summer, but I suspect that was an attempt to fix her 3F entry and something "for fun" more than anything else.

BoP means that it is better for a guy to do 4T, 4T+2T, and 3A in the first half of a program and then 3A+2T+2Lo, 3Lz+3T, 3F, 3S, 2A in second half because those jump passes in the second half get an additional 10% bonus.

2. The issue is that you want your combination jumps in the back half of your program to maximize points. It's very difficult to perform these high risk combos in the second half of your program.

Originally Posted by Mathman
1999, Plushenko does the first 4/3/2 combo. 2002, Plushenko does 4T+3T+3Lo (step out of the loop) at the Olympics. (I think Kevin van der Perren has the first clean 4+3+3 combo.)
Plushenko did a clean 4T-3T-3Lo at CoR 2003. I think the 3Lo was borderline but he didn't step out.

3. Originally Posted by Mathman
Michael Chack once tried a one-foot Axel / quad toe combination.
Originally Posted by FSGMT
With "one-foot axel" you mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeBHw7hCkes? Or maybe you meant a one-foot axel+4Salchow combo...
It was a quad salchow attempt

4. But it won't be on youtube because he always got "chacked"

5. Originally Posted by jennyanydots
This is one of the glaring flaws of the judging system. It doesn't reward difficulty of combos. A skater doing a 3Z-3T combo and 2A will get the same amount of points as a skater doing a lone 3Z and 2A-3T combo. That's why the 2A-3T combo has become so popular with the ladies. It's a way to get in 7 triples in the LP without having to do a 3-3. There have been several skaters who have done two 3-3 combos in their LP like Sarah Hughes, Kimmie Meissner and Shizuka Arakawa. As for the 3-1L-3 combo, some ladies who have done it are Tara Lipinski, Elena Radionova, Anna Pogorylaya and Joannie Rochette. I also cannot stand watching Maxim Kovtun's jumping technique. I suppose it gets the job done but it's just ugly and can't be considered good technique.
Could not have agreed more.
A skater will probably have a higher score if he does a 2A-3T and 3Lz instead of a 3Lz-3T and 2A due to GOE.
That's something the ISU has to fix...

Originally Posted by supsu
So I was wondering what is the future for jump combinations? In recent years 4-3, 3a-3 combos, and 3-3, 2a-3 combos for women have become fairly requirements for top skaters. Also 3-1lo-3 3-jump-combo is featured in some of men's programs. Is that a possible combo for women instead of a 3-2-2? Are some practicing different combos but which are too hard for programs? Is 4-4 a possibility (or 3-4)? Is it possible for women to do two 3-3 combos in programs? I remember a talk about a 3-3-2 in some women programs? Who is/are doing it?

And I totally different question: Kovtun's jumping technique... Why is he in such a bad posture when taking off for his quads? Can he fix it or does he need to? Because to my eye it is distracting and interrupts to the program as would a long waiting before take off.
Carolina Kostner was actually quite a brilliant technician early in her career.
She used to do 3F-3T-2L up until 2008.

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