Can Julia Lipnitskaia close the gap on Adelina Sotnikova?
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To me they are the same as they always were.
If Adelina goes clean or almost clean in both programs, she beats Julia (and probably everyone else but Mao and Yuna).
If Adelina skates like she usually skates, Julia beats her.
Odds therefore still favor Julia.
However, if this is the beginning of a new, clean era for Sotnikova, more power to her.
If Adelina goes clean or almost clean in both programs, she beats Julia (and probably everyone else but Mao and Yuna).
If Adelina skates like she usually skates, Julia beats her.
Odds therefore still favor Julia.
However, if this is the beginning of a new, clean era for Sotnikova, more power to her.
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Seriously? In my opinion Adelina has grown up and her jumps are still there. Julia although she is not 10-11 as one silly hater claims still looks like she has room to grow and her jumps do not look particularly large or secure. Her 3-3 is not impressive compared to that of, say, early Carolina Kostner, to say nothing of Yuna Kim. The older they get, I think the bigger the gap will get if Adelina can sort out her "headcase" issues.
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I agree. I suspect that Sotnikova will completely bomb at the Olympics (not that I want her to - just my prediction).
I agree with everything you said.
I don't know if Adelina can get 70+ PCS. Her personal best in PCS was 64+, which she got at TEB. But if she has an amazing performance, she could get tehre. Julia has received 70+ TES internationally. It's going to be interesting, for sure!
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I can picture a Kostner in 2010 Olympics scenario for Sotnikova
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You'd love that, wouldn't you?
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I agree with this assessment. Adelina clean or with one mistake will blow past Julia, as she should.
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So, the next question is, why does the Russian Fed love her? Is it because she is way more interesting and exciting to watch than Julia? Or did the Russian Fed have a lottery to get to see who the favorite is and Adelina won?
I won't enjoy Julia as long as she only cares about her placement rather than how she performs. She skated a clean 7 triple LP and got 140 and was pouting because a superior all around skater placed ahead of her. Instead of pouting she should skate faster and jump bigger.
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she was disappointed with her score because she did solid 7 triples, she got screwed
Julia is not after her placements but her aim is to always skate clean as she has said many times
the scores she got for a clean skate was what disappointed her not placing behind Sotnikova
Sotnikova isnt a superior all around skater some make it out she is
Sotnikova is overrated and overhyped by her Fed
Julia has improved immensely this season, her FS alone should score higher than Sotnikova if clean
she has improved her jumps, her 2A gets more height now and with difficult exit, better in IN, CH, PE, TR
speed is good and she isnt slow as you make it is
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The only skater in the history of the universe who could remotely be disappointed with a 140 is Yuna Kim. So Julia thinks she is better than Yuna now? I like her even less.
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That's really mean. Only two spots available on the Russian team and she skates lights out at Nationals, she can obviously handle pressure. I would think the weight is off her shoulders a bit.
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I don't think anything that could happen at Euros would change the team now. It's pretty clear this is the team the Russian Fed wanted given the absurdly high PCS both Adelina and Julia got at Nationals. However, they earned the spots fair and square, not only here but also having been the best two through the entire season.
140+ is a great score and she needs a major attitude shift if she is that score-obsessed.
Perhaps she should take a page from the always sunny Jason Brown:
http://skateguard1.blogspot.com/2013/11/interview-with-jason-brown.html
ETA: However, I would like to give the benefit of the doubt and think that she is not that self-absorbed and that what we're seeing is someone who is an extreme perfectionist.
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This. The people complaining about Adelina's pcs need to also look at Julia's. neither Julia nor Adelina could possibly receive the pcs they did outside Russia. The gap between them was appropriate however.
I also do think both have earned their spots fair and square. while obvious that the federation wanted them to succeed and do it, I guarantee if either had skated like tukt they would not have been first or second, and that if Tukt had skated like them she'd have been no lower than third.
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Julia isn't the reigning national champion going to the Olympics
less pressure to Julia more pressure to Adelina
