I havent seen Ito do many figures, but it is hard to believe watching Witts figures in Calgary they were likely better than any of Manley, Kadavy, Leistner, or Trenary (all who she placed above in figures of course) or much better than Ito. Just look at Trenarys final figures compared to Witts, and think of Witt somehow ending up 2 places higher in figures than Jill (and yes I know there were 2 other figures that counted but still):
Originally Posted by CarneAsada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31-yn9XYq0k (start at about 9:00 for Witt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GQws... final figure)
Witt was definitely propped up in figures. Many were suspicious of her rise from 8th in figures at the 83 Worlds to 3rd at the 84 Olympics, which allowed her to ultimately beat out reigning World Champion Sumners for the gold medal with strong free skating performances. One year later Tiffany Chin moved from 12th in figures at the 84 Olympics (which kept her out of the medals despite many thinking she was the best skater there) to 2nd at the 85 Worlds (now U.S #1 with Sumners retirement and stating herself in a recent TSL she didnt feel her figures had improved at all from 84). Politics were huge in the placements of figures, and I am pretty sure if Witt wasnt Witt she would have found herself way down, or if Ito were already a World and Olympic Champion she would have been proped up and placed top 5 on a regular basis in figures.
Sometimes bad skating happens to good people...
Well, if the judging was fair, in 1988 the figures would have gone Ivanova (whatever she wasn't going anywhere but down), Trenary (brilliant figures and might have had her first), Thomas, Kadavy, Manley (she always squawked about her wonderful figures, but whatever...), Leistner, and then maybe Witt. I was so glad when they got rid of figures. It was really a pecking order, there was no identifiable integrity to the placings.
Yeah those standings sound about right, except probably switch Leistner and Kadavy as Caryn choked a bit in the Calgary figures and didnt do her best.
I dont think Manley thought she had incredible figures. However she feels she deserved 1st place in figures at the 88 Worlds where she apparently had her best figures ever. From everyone who I have heard saw them she is probably right (of course Witt won the figures by some miracle).
Katarina Witt 1988 Olympics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57R7aAY5QiM
Oksana Bauil 1994 Olympics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fvrG3f0fI
Lu Chen 1998 Olympics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYzxIjEewuk
Yukari Nakano 2008 Worlds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ANuxqHXNk
Laura Lepisto 2009 Euros http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjNrIwJeH0U and 2010 Worlds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK2eZN3V2BU
Elena Sokolova 2003 Worlds
Irina Slutzkaya 2002 Olympics and 2005 Worlds
Sasha Cohen 2002 Olympics, 2004 Marshalls LP Swan Lake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouNL5ux17c4
Shizuka Arakawa 2006 Olympics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9EaMEk74g
Yuna Kim 2013 Worlds
Alissa Chizny 2011 Worlds and 2009 Worlds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIqNbpteais, 2007 US Nationals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZurMskwPwE0
Carolina Kostner 2013 Worlds
Carolina Kostner 2012 Worlds
Yuna Kim 2010 Olympics
Mao Asada 2008 Worlds and 2010 Worlds
Yulia Lipnitskaya 2013-2014 Russian Nationals
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