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    Senior Free Programs at Canadian Nationals -- Split Again !

    Maybe the mods will move this to the national section... or maybe someone's already raised this..

    In the meantime, I was looking at the competition schedule to plan out streaming vs. TV watching , and once again there will be some very large time gaps between the last flight and every one else at nationals, I suppose to accommodate TV .



    I find this infuriating..oh ,they'll have a sunday recap show ,so maybe if someone not from the last flight does something extraordinary we'll get to see it .. But it's not the viewers that I'm upset for...

    I fail to see how this can be guaranteed to be a fair competition when there's a gap of over 6 hrs in the Men's competition, over 5 hrs. for Dance.. 4hrs. for the Women and about an hour and a half for Pairs .. I know I've ranted about this in the past, but I truly think there's room for mistakes when say 2/3 or more of the competition goes in the morning and the last third in the late afternoon.

    I'm not really up to date this year having had many things to deal with, so I'll just use Dance as an example , since I'm most familiar with the field. It's not only third place that will be hotly contested , but the available spots for next yrs. national team. We already had more than five deserving teams last year and there will be more moving up from Juniors this year. Say there are 3 couples in contention for that fifth spot ... it's likely only one will have 5hrs. longer to prepare ,rest ( or on the negative side more time for nerves to get out of control)...and they'll be coming into a different ambient environment. Judges are human too.. I'm sure they'll try to do their best , but I doubt we can rule out that it might not make a difference for them, too.

    I really hate this set - up.

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    Yes, US Nationals has this same miserable setup. Both the Dance & Pairs are split this year.

    However, the TV folk are the ones who insist on this, and since skating is not as popular as it once was, the federations are in no position to insist on anything, really.

    It used to be that the whole competition was broadcast on some other channel in Canada (besides the sunday recap)? I think PJ Kwong was the commentator? Will this broadcast happen this year?

    I believe the whole US program will be on Universal Sports, but the problem is still that so few cable providers offer it

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    The other thing that annoys me about this is that it's not as if these events are so competitive and exciting that you just have to see them live. I mean, the top two in at least 3 disciplines are pretty much set. It's certainly not worth compromising the integrity of the competition just to show them live.

    I suspsect that CTV just doesn't want to sacrifice too much of their other programming for this, so cramming it into one broadcast suits them better. I'd rather see a separate afternoon and evening broadcast with some events live and some taped.

    Oh, but wait, the main event isn't even going to be on CTV, it's on TSN:

    http://skatecanada.ca/en-us/eventsre...tschedule.aspx

    Last year it was on CTV, wasn't it? This makes it even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmcdermott View Post
    The other thing that annoys me about this is that it's not as if these events are so competitive and exciting that you just have to see them live. I mean, the top two in at least 3 disciplines are pretty much set. It's certainly not worth compromising the integrity of the competition just to show them live.

    I suspsect that CTV just doesn't want to sacrifice too much of their other programming for this, so cramming it into one broadcast suits them better. I'd rather see a separate afternoon and evening broadcast with some events live and some taped.

    Oh, but wait, the main event isn't even going to be on CTV, it's on TSN:

    http://skatecanada.ca/en-us/eventsre...tschedule.aspx

    Last year it was on CTV, wasn't it? This makes it even worse.
    Don't know about last year, but last Olympic cycle it was on CBC. I recal quite a bit of it being shown live.

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    This is complicated ..That's why I'm making lists , anyway .. CTV had the last Olys.. Since the CTV's new contract came into effect sometime after the last Olys ( 2 yrs ?), it's been thus :

    CTV/TSN.. Skate Canada GP and Nationals

    CBC ... all other GPs and Worlds

    RDS has their own schedule..often pretty good

    At Nats ,Skate Canada will live stream the parts not shown on CTV/TSN . In the past, this has included practices and the early segments of the Free Programs for seniors ..plus Junior ( and novice ?) Nats.... at a cost of $19.95 for the season ( sadly for me, I missed challenge coverage)..I think including next year's summer competitions.

    Tracy Wilson is on CTV/TSN , and CBC has Carol Lane in her place ( this was true at least for Skate America . I watched the rest of the GP online , because of delayed broadcasts..sometimes really delayed )

    Come the olympics, CTV/TSN and CBC will share coverage, but who has what events, who knows...

    Don't get too settled though.. CBC's contract will be up in the next couple of years , so more changes may be coming (We'll cross that bridge when we come to it )

    I hope I have that right..but my head is spinning..

    ETA: I think the network thinking is more about keeping the non- fans entertained and tuned in by only showing them the elite skaters and showing all the finals together. The trouble is ,even from that point of view , it's still sport ...anyone can bomb on any given day, and some really inspiring early performances can get lost in the shuffle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen o'neill View Post


    ETA: I think the network thinking is more about keeping the non- fans entertained and tuned in by only showing them the elite skaters and showing all the finals together. The trouble is ,even from that point of view , it's still sport ...anyone can bomb on any given day, and some really inspiring early performances can get lost in the shuffle.
    I hate the concept of splitting up the competitions for this reason!

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