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    Quote Originally Posted by chapis View Post
    It is only I appreciate much my sleep hours, i only want stay awake watching skating.
    Well, yeah, Med school can ruin that. ........

    I also wish Rachael the best of luck! If it's something that she truly wants, then she'll make it.

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    Medical school isn't that bad, neither is law. If you are called you will survive. Besides figure skating gives you good no excellent discipline. Waking up early, working hard, having to stay focussed all good for difficult careers and training. I hope Rachel enjoys her final nationals.

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    Great news from/for Flatt:

    She is going to be a sports envoy for the U.S. Department of State, following in the footsteps of Kwan (and Lysacek and I don't know who else).


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    Going to any college and trying to be an elite figure skater is daunting. Going to Stanford pushes it up a notch. I give her major props for sticking with it through this season. I'm sure she wanted to skate better than she did but after she finished her LP she waved to the crowd and it was clear that was her last time on competitive ice. She got a standing ovation and was given the homage she deserved. I think she went out with class - if not with a medal. I wish her all the luck for a satisfying and prosperous career.

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    Flatt was an overachiever who had a very nice career for herself in international skating, and did better than skaters with far more natural talent (Zhang, Nagasu) and about equal to Wagner thus far who also has far more natural talent. She can be brought of what she did in the sport 2008-2011.

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    Long time reader, 1st time poster and parent of a competitive figure skater. You could have ended your post at "Flatt was an overachiever who had a very nice career for herself in international skating." All current/past competitive skaters and their family know what each skater and their respective family sacrifice for this sport/dream. Let's stop the negativity (ironic since I'm actually pretty bitter person). Imagine waking up at 4am every morning since you were 4~5yo 'til your 20's, eating in the car, changing for school in the car, doing homework in the car, no sleepovers (doesn't work when you're used to sleeping by 7pm), no playdates, friends, etc, etc. It's what these skaters sacrifice and do. I've read many posts here, there, everywhere, criticizing Nagasu's work ethics. Here's my take, I think she was burnt out. All those years of early morning, afternoon practices. All those lonely hours on the ice (it's not a team sport, it's got to be psychologically/mentally taxing). It all culminated to Vancouver Olympics where she, admirably, finished 4th (and many believe should have won the bronze). Where do you go after you've reached your dream, the olympics? Even the great Yuna Kim lost her motivation at the Worlds following the olympics. And Nagasu was a teenager. Let's cut her some slack. Perhaps she should be faulted for not taking a long break to refuel and to energize.

    This is not an attack on pantongfan. I hope you don't take it that way.

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    Welcome jdlee. I don't think PT was suggesting Rachel worked harder than the others. Rather, it's clear that her form in competition was closer to her own peak level than her rivals. Often we see Mirai and Ashley (among others) do beautiful jumps in practice and warm-up, but tighten up during the competition. This is understandable, but Rachel was rare in her ability to rise above the burn out to deliver to her best ability.

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    my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdlee View Post
    Long time reader, 1st time poster and parent of a competitive figure skater. You could have ended your post at "Flatt was an overachiever who had a very nice career for herself in international skating." All current/past competitive skaters and their family know what each skater and their respective family sacrifice for this sport/dream. Let's stop the negativity (ironic since I'm actually pretty bitter person). Imagine waking up at 4am every morning since you were 4~5yo 'til your 20's, eating in the car, changing for school in the car, doing homework in the car, no sleepovers (doesn't work when you're used to sleeping by 7pm), no playdates, friends, etc, etc. It's what these skaters sacrifice and do. I've read many posts here, there, everywhere, criticizing Nagasu's work ethics. Here's my take, I think she was burnt out. All those years of early morning, afternoon practices. All those lonely hours on the ice (it's not a team sport, it's got to be psychologically/mentally taxing). It all culminated to Vancouver Olympics where she, admirably, finished 4th (and many believe should have won the bronze). Where do you go after you've reached your dream, the olympics? Even the great Yuna Kim lost her motivation at the Worlds following the olympics. And Nagasu was a teenager. Let's cut her some slack. Perhaps she should be faulted for not taking a long break to refuel and to energize.

    This is not an attack on pantongfan. I hope you don't take it that way.
    And more people thought the bronze medallist should have been silver which means the silver medallist should have been fourth. Mirai sadly did not have the edges or skating skills back then of the top skaters (Kim, Asada and Rochette). Her version of Carmen was rather an academic execution of elements but had very l i ttlte to do with the character of CArmen other than she was a female. She could have been skating to Beauty and the beast or a Whole New W - very little interpretation or comprehension of artistic skating

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    Just playing the devil's advocate.... there lies the problem with this sport. Edges, skating skills, musicality, etc etc are in the hands of these judges who award points. someone commented, a 2 point basket in a basketball game is a 2 point basket, no extra point is awarded for a shot with Michael Jordonesque difficulty. Then again, one can argue fouls are called by referees that can affect the outcome of a game. In baseball, balls and strikes are called by umpires. Are skating judges equivalent to NBA referees or MLB Umpires? Just a thought.

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    Nobody had a chance at the last Olympics--no American, I mean. If YuNa skated pretty good, she'd come in first. If Mao skated pretty well, second. Rochette was the hometown girl and her mother had died, making her the sentimental favorite. There was no conceivable way Mirai would go ahead of her unless Joannie fell numerous times, and she did not. Mirai deserves a lot of credit for at least getting an American near the podium. We'll see how well these three do in a couple of weeks, but the only one I trust not to fall apart is Polina. I wish Rachael were going.

    What I find upsetting is that (it seems like) the "sports envoy" is some sort of a fluff job for famous people. I thought Michelle had really earned the position through her studies in international relations, not her skating background. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    As for Rachael? We'll see. It's hard to tell who's really smart and who gets into fancy schools, etc. based on their fame. Sarah Hughes was supposed to go to medical school, too, and she seems to have no career at all. Of course, this makes Debi Thomas's accomplishments all the more impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodlepal View Post
    As for Rachael? We'll see. It's hard to tell who's really smart and who gets into fancy schools, etc. based on their fame. Sarah Hughes was supposed to go to medical school, too, and she seems to have no career at all. Of course, this makes Debi Thomas's accomplishments all the more impressive.
    People who get into "fancy schools" have a combination of smarts and personal accomplishments. Once there, they usually do pretty well because top schools generally don't give grades below B except in STEM courses. Someone like Rachel who can make A's and B's, along with having been one of the best in the world at something, will have her choice of medical schools to attend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodlepal View Post
    Nobody had a chance at the last Olympics--no American, I mean. If YuNa skated pretty good, she'd come in first. If Mao skated pretty well, second. Rochette was the hometown girl and her mother had died, making her the sentimental favorite. There was no conceivable way Mirai would go ahead of her unless Joannie fell numerous times, and she did not. Mirai deserves a lot of credit for at least getting an American near the podium. We'll see how well these three do in a couple of weeks, but the only one I trust not to fall apart is Polina. I wish Rachael were going.

    What I find upsetting is that (it seems like) the "sports envoy" is some sort of a fluff job for famous people. I thought Michelle had really earned the position through her studies in international relations, not her skating background. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    As for Rachael? We'll see. It's hard to tell who's really smart and who gets into fancy schools, etc. based on their fame. Sarah Hughes was supposed to go to medical school, too, and she seems to have no career at all. Of course, this makes Debi Thomas's accomplishments all the more impressive.

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    Yeah, Sarah got back into skating and attending events. The drive and push she showed to be able to skate that performance at 16 was amazing. I did not hear Sarah was interested in med school. I thought law school like her Dad. At any rate, she is very capable and still on the edges of the skating world. Maybe she has enough money to float until she finds something she really loves. I think she is still the very mature, self own girl we watched rise meteorically in skating like Tara. She will likely go to grad school when she finds something she loves as much as she loved skating.

    It must be very seductive to be an American Oly Gold medalist-always on the invitation list to the upper class activities, charity events, competitions. It seems funny that fashionista Sasha wants know to be a hedge fund mgr, and Sarah is still floating around. Fine with me, but I thought she had the drive to become a New York Senator. No one really knows her. She is not seeking notoriety with a political marriage. It just occurred to me she may be wanting to marry and have a pack of Hughes kids like her mom. Maybe she is looking for her husband. At any rate, she could do anything. I hope we see her using the talents she has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    Yeah, Sarah got back into skating and attending events. The drive and push she showed to be able to skate that performance at 16 was amazing. I did not hear Sarah was interested in med school. I thought law school like her Dad. At any rate, she is very capable and still on the edges of the skating world. Maybe she has enough money to float until she finds something she really loves. I think she is still the very mature, self own girl we watched rise meteorically in skating like Tara. She will likely go to grad school when she finds something she loves as much as she loved skating.

    It must be very seductive to be an American Oly Gold medalist-always on the invitation list to the upper class activities, charity events, competitions. It seems funny that fashionista Sasha wants know to be a hedge fund mgr, and Sarah is still floating around. Fine with me, but I thought she had the drive to become a New York Senator. No one really knows her. She is not seeking notoriety with a political marriage. It just occurred to me she may be wanting to marry and have a pack of Hughes kids like her mom. Maybe she is looking for her husband. At any rate, she could do anything. I hope we see her using the talents she has.
    Is this a dig at Michelle????

    Because I hardly think she was lacking in notoriety before her marriage.

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