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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodlepal View Post

    What I find upsetting is that (it seems like) the "sports envoy" is some sort of a fluff job for famous people. I thought Michelle had really earned the position through her studies in international relations, not her skating background. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Short answer: You're wrong.

    Longer answer:
    - When the State Department issues a press release announcing Flatt as a sports envoy, I will come back and post it in this thread, along with the old State Department announcements re Kwan and Lysacek.
    - Meanwhile, I assume that Flatt's role will be in addition to -- not instead of -- her studies at Stanford. I doubt very much that the envoy position will be a full-time job. I have no expectation that it will interfere with her long-planned medical career.
    - I envision that as Lysacek has done, she will make one or more trips to foreign countries to interact with international youth as an official representative of the U.S. I bet that they will be excited to meet one of America's best and brightest.
    - Through her ACCOMPLISHMENTS, Flatt EARNED whatever "fame" she has. She is an Olympian and a former national champion, a future physician, and a lovely young lady on the inside and the outside. As an American, I too would be honored to meet her.
    - I should have been more precise regarding Kwan in my original post. Lysacek and other sports envoys (who are known primarily for their own accomplishments as athletes) have slightly different official titles than what Kwan's was. She technically was named a "public diplomacy envoy," IIRC -- but with a clear emphasis on sports diplomacy. And IIRC, Kwan became an envoy before completing her studies -- so her demonstrated interest in international relations would not have hurt, but her academic credentials to date were hardly the sole basis for the State Department's original interest in her. Kwan's skating background was very much a reason for her appointment as envoy. I'm sure that Kwan herself would say the same.

    Thanks to the mods for changing the title of this thread.

    I am sad that the only comment about the State Department news has been one of skepticism.
    With "friends" like us, apparently skaters do not need enemies.

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    Sadly, even after she retires from skating, Rachael can't cut a break from people on these boards. Oh well.

    In any case, I'd suggest that people head on over to the Department of State's Sports Diplomacy page: http://eca.state.gov/programs-initia....pBXvXkcM.dpuf

    Sports Envoys are athletes and coaches who travel overseas to lead programs that were developed by U.S. embassies and consulates. These American coaches and athletes hold sports clinics for young people and their coaches, participate in community outreach activities, and engage youth in a dialogue on the importance of leadership and respect for diversity. SportsUnited manages the Sports Envoy programs, working in cooperation with the U.S. Olympic Committee, U.S. sports federations, and professional leagues.
    Here's a list of Sports Envoys: http://eca.state.gov/programs-initia...blic-diplomacy

    Besides being a former Olympian, Rachael's community service activities probably caught the attention of the department as well. While she was active in the competitive ranks, I recall that Rachael actively was involved in other aspects of the sport that included skating in benefit shows, helping out at various learn-to-skate events and other related causes (see here: http://www.figureskatersonline.com/r...tt/causes.html). More recently Rachael served as an athlete ambassador to the University of Coloraldo Health System "Road to Greatness" challenge. http://www.uchroadtohealth.org/people/rachael-flatt/

    In essence, Rachael EARNED this job just like any regular person would have. Rachael had clearly had a slew of community service and sports activities on her resume. That list clearly caught the attention of the U.S. Department of State, which extended the Sports Envoy job to her.

    So really, I was not surprised that she was selected for this great opportunity. Go Rach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha'sSpins View Post
    All I see is the title and some survey. What is the gist of the article?

    eta: I found part of it on this other site: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24...vent-colorados

    COLORADO SPRINGS — Rachael Flatt says she is at her best when she is really busy. The 2010 Cheyenne Mountain High School graduate knows. You can trust the 2010 Olympian on this.

    Her extracurricular commitments as a junior class president at Stanford and a Alpha Phi sorority member and challenging academic work as a pre-med student is enough to overwhelm most.

    She is excited to begin life after figure skating after about three years of battling injuries. She wants to enjoy this final season before she retires to focus on medical school.

    Part of her transition to life after figure skating is why Flatt led a public skate Thursday that drew about 110 people to Honnen Ice Arena on the Colorado College campus. It served as a fundraiser for the Memorial Hospital Foundation.
    She may have never won the big prize but she sure is a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdlee View Post
    Long time reader, 1st time poster and parent of a competitive figure skater. You could have ended your post at "Flatt was an overachiever who had a very nice career for herself in international skating." All current/past competitive skaters and their family know what each skater and their respective family sacrifice for this sport/dream. Let's stop the negativity (ironic since I'm actually pretty bitter person). Imagine waking up at 4am every morning since you were 4~5yo 'til your 20's, eating in the car, changing for school in the car, doing homework in the car, no sleepovers (doesn't work when you're used to sleeping by 7pm), no playdates, friends, etc, etc. It's what these skaters sacrifice and do. I've read many posts here, there, everywhere, criticizing Nagasu's work ethics. Here's my take, I think she was burnt out. All those years of early morning, afternoon practices. All those lonely hours on the ice (it's not a team sport, it's got to be psychologically/mentally taxing). It all culminated to Vancouver Olympics where she, admirably, finished 4th (and many believe should have won the bronze). Where do you go after you've reached your dream, the olympics? Even the great Yuna Kim lost her motivation at the Worlds following the olympics. And Nagasu was a teenager. Let's cut her some slack. Perhaps she should be faulted for not taking a long break to refuel and to energize.

    This is not an attack on pantongfan. I hope you don't take it that way.
    Young skaters would do better to forego those early morning training sessions. The Hughes consulted a sleep specialist, who has been on tv recently, and told them Sarah should forego her early morning sessions . IMO many skaters are not training smart and are making things much more difficult for themselves than is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Young skaters would do better to forego those early morning training sessions. The Hughes consulted a sleep specialist, who has been on tv recently, and told them Sarah should forego her early morning sessions . IMO many skaters are not training smart and are making things much more difficult for themselves than is necessary.
    I think they need to do early morning sessions because that is when the ice is available.

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    And because it works around the school day if they attend regular school.

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    I'll say this for her--she exited the skating world with class and on her own terms. With two killer costumes to boot.

    So, style and class. Not a bad combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Young skaters would do better to forego those early morning training sessions. The Hughes consulted a sleep specialist, who has been on tv recently, and told them Sarah should forego her early morning sessions . IMO many skaters are not training smart and are making things much more difficult for themselves than is necessary.
    Thank you for your response. Perhaps you are correct and in a perfect skating world, all competitive skaters would get perfect amount of sleep and perfect balance of on and off ice training to fuel them in their endeavors, not to mention perfect balance of school/social life and skating. Believe you me, not only are skaters sleep deprived but also their chauffeurs, the parent(s). Family's somehow make it "work" (Harding, Agnes Z, Mirai N, and countless dreamers at your local rinks down the street). It's a brutal activity (sport?) where the fate of your present and future standings in the activity (sport) do not rest solely on your ability to execute required elements, but also impressing (and being noticed early on in your skating career) those people sitting on the board wearing their warm, fuzzy coats, and critiquing your every move. Having said that, there's not a thing I would change about me, waking up 4am daily, sitting in a frigid, dark (fig skaters are treated like a "stepchild" at most rinks as the rinks dim the light during FS sessions to conserve electricity while nuclear rays of sunshine spotlights hockey sessions) skating rink watching my lil girl working hard for her goals.

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    Last edited by RABID; 02-01-2014 at 11:07 AM. Reason: covered quite nicely already

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    People who get into "fancy schools" have a combination of smarts and personal accomplishments. Once there, they usually do pretty well because top schools generally don't give grades below B except in STEM courses. Someone like Rachel who can make A's and B's, along with having been one of the best in the world at something, will have her choice of medical schools to attend.

    Maybe things have changed, or Harvard doesn't follow the grade giving procedures you suggest for top schools, but when JFK's academic record was made public there were c's given.

    Some of the ivy leagues make it almost impossible to fail and Stanford is among them:

    Although Stanford has a regular grading policy where undergraduate students can get A, B, C, and D grades, there are no F grades given.

    Here, grade inflation is still common. This chart shows the steady increase in average GPAs from a 2.48 in 1917, to a 3.55 in 2005.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/13-sc...il-2013-5?op=1

    I have worked with Harvard graduates in my field and find myself often astounded at the things they don't know. Some have come to me for help with problems that any sophomore major in my field at my state institution would know how to solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Young skaters would do better to forego those early morning training sessions. The Hughes consulted a sleep specialist, who has been on tv recently, and told them Sarah should forego her early morning sessions . IMO many skaters are not training smart and are making things much more difficult for themselves than is necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    And because it works around the school day if they attend regular school.
    One of the many examples that support Olympia's point:

    When Virtue/Moir as young kids were ready for more than what their hometown coach (Scott's aunt) could offer, the first big step was daily sessions with a more advanced coach -- requiring a looooong round-trip commute before starting their regular school days.
    In the wee hours of every morning, the two families would take turns at carpool duty -- driving on the order of 90 minutes each way -- so that V/M could skate in Kitchener before heading to their classrooms in London and Ilderton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Maybe things have changed, or Harvard doesn't follow the grade giving procedures you suggest for top schools, but when JFK's academic record was made public there were c's given.
    I think they still give "gentlemen's C's" to "legacy students."

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    Grade inflation is rampant everywhere, going down to the high school level. I'm a high school teacher, believe me, I hear about it all the time (but God forbid we don't inflate the grades ourselves--I could tell you some stories about that!)

    But, getting back on topic.
    1. Yes, I was right. The sports envoy is a special job for famous people. I'm sure you need to be of good character--I doubt they're going to send A-Rod or Incognito overseas any time soon--but it does not seem to be like a "regular" ambassador job. I'd be interested in what they actually do. Do they actually teach their sport? Or are they more in the field of giving speeches, etc? Either way, Rachael is a good choice. She speaks well and has a very outgoing personality. Congratulations for her.

    2. Sarah, Rachael and Debi were marketed as smart girls who were skating only as a sideline for their future brilliance. Debi actually succeeded at something unrelated to skating. She can replace hips!

    Sarah, on the other hand, does not seem to work, even as an announcer or a skater on tour. Good for her if she doesn't have to. But it's in contrast to how she was portrayed while she was skating, as a brainiac who would go on to serious study and a serious career. She may still, or if she doesn't, that's OK. I don't mean to judge her harshly.

    The remark about Sasha was very interesting. She was portrayed as a temperamental glamour girl. If she really gets a job in finance--a glamourous, but deadly serious field--that would also be in contrast to how she was portrayed by the media. It makes me wonder how accurate these images--the "good girl," the "smart girl," etc. are

    Fortunately, Ashley and Gracie will not have this problem, as they have no personality given to them at all by the press. All I know is that Ashley's father was in the pentagon on 9/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I think they still give "gentlemen's C's" to "legacy students."
    Do you mean JFK or JFK junior? Because one would be almost 100 years old, and one would be about 50. Either way, they would have been in college before the rampant grade inflation began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Maybe things have changed, or Harvard doesn't follow the grade giving procedures you suggest for top schools, but when JFK's academic record was made public there were c's given. ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Poodlepal View Post
    Do you mean JFK or JFK junior? Because one would be almost 100 years old, and one would be about 50. Either way, they would have been in college before the rampant grade inflation began.
    JFK, the future president, attended Harvard.

    His son attended Brown.

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