Akiko: Mom, my best performance ever got a bunch of dislikes and nasty comments on youtube!
Mom: Wow, congratulations, sweetie!
Mom: You finally made it to the top.
♔Princess Li Zijun♔
lol I died from laughter, so I'm more of fan than a fanatic, I don't go and put my favorite skaters on a pedestal and trash on all the other skaters, I know my favs have imperfections and have off days but don't go on Youtube and trash about other skaters to make he or she look better.
Originally Posted by Puchi
~ Figure Skating Is My Passion ~
Hmmm, if you are expecting serious fans to comment on your favorite skater on a public forum such as Youtube, then you must realize not everyone commenting there is a figure skating fan for starters. They may no nothing about figure skating. It would be like me trying to give favorable comments about a hockey player or game. My knowledge of hockey is pretty limited. I don't read the comments people make on youtube about any entertainer or skater and if I do I ignore the ignorant ones. Just enjoy watching your favorite skater and don't take youtube comments too seriously.
I see what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate: It is very unlikely that a non-fan would check a figure skating video. As Doris has posted in the past the top viewed figure skating video is Starr Andrews (good luck to her at Nationals. ) skating to "I Whip My Hair" and one involving a costume malfunction.
Originally Posted by Ladskater
There is no reason for Akiko Suzuki's Japanese Nationals video to be viewed by a nonfan or the public. At 295k views, it's hardly gone viral. So I don't think it's a stretch to say the majority of people commenting are fans of either 1.) a certain skater or 2.) skating in general.
But your'e right, it's not worth getting worked up over the dislikes...but I wanted to point out it's a bit disheartening to see, as Frenchie pointed out.
Have you read the comments? It full of hate speech calling her appearance not her skating ugly, whether Akiko care or not it is still horrible.
Originally Posted by brightphoton
I agree that they are malicious imbeciles, and ought to be publicly shamed, if that were possible.
Originally Posted by treeloving
The unfortunate thing about Youtube, though, is that it's not only anonymous, but there is very little community or moderating, it appears to me. It's the perfect environment for trolling, in other words.
It's like complaining about elevated crime in densely populated urban areas, where people don't know or care about passers-by, and the police are almost never visible.
Caveat emptor. And let's try not to recapitulate Youtube's faults in our cozier community on GS, over which we collectively have a greater capacity to direct and influence.
the Golden Era
looks like Yuna's FS has considerable dislikes too : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLsNGUOdzag
so Mao and Suzuki arent the only ones, maybe payback from their fans for Suzuki's and Mao dislikes
most common word: dirty jap money, hater
For the most part it's "the cost of doing business" but it still riles me up when someone like that /\ uses YuNa as his/her's avatar. It's offensive in the extreme to have someone associate such a humanitarian or any person of good character with such tribal ugliness.
Originally Posted by sky_fly20
Most of the awful comments under YuNa's FS are from the Koreans. I guess they will never like Mao, nor any other skater. These fans make YuNa look bad. No wonder she has a huge entourage, body guard flotilla. Unhinged fanatics must chase her everywhere. It is too bad she broke with Orser, or the mother more accurately. Canada was clearly a place where she was free to be herself, and skated her best years. I am shocked, but then when I see the behavior of the "mob" on GS and how pushy...I guess nothing surprises me. Perhaps it is for the best the retirements coming soon.
the Golden Era
with so many comments with the word "jap" under Yuna's FS
Originally Posted by skateluvr
I think its more of an ethnic slur
Yuna's Ice Rink
now we are "the mob" here in goldenskate..we've been accused as bullies.. ubers.. stupid.. by you.. and yet here you are again.. generalizing everything..
Originally Posted by skateluvr
i don't know why some are tolerating this kind of behavior..
Well I think you, YunaBliss, and Krislite in particular are very classy and never nasty about other skaters. If that makes you feel any better.
Originally Posted by cooper
Not all Yuna fans are like that, and those nasty comments are not by real figure skating fans, but those who just go around looking for fights. As a Korean, I'm very ashamed of those people, but it's probably because of the Korean press, they just bring every nasty and stupid things Japanese press and journalists have said about Yuna and publish them as articles. Anyway there are tons of Japanese saying bad things about Yuna too, so don't say like we Koreans are all ill-mannered people, it's starting to irritate me. At least here at GS, I've never seen anyone that inappropriate. Have you ever thought about your posts and comments carefully? To me they are wayyyy more pushy.
Originally Posted by skateluvr
ISU - yeah, well, what are YOU gonna do about it?
Originally Posted by Jewels
When I started this thread, I was honestly curious as to why the Yu-Na - Mao rivaly had gotten such a negative spin over the years. (for some, not for all)
I know that noone should generalize. I'm both French and German, so I know about historically based animosity between 2 countries. Since you are Korean, would you mind telling a bit about your take on the role the media play in all this? Any Korean or Japanese member is encouraged to add their 2 cents - as long as we can agree to be civil.
I know there are "serious media" and "tabloids". That's the same everywhere. Would you say that, in Korea,
a) Serious Media (news on big tv channel, big newspaper,...) are very much goading the viewers, like what I'd consider a tabloid would be doing in Europe?
b) Tabloids have more impact on the population, even if the serious media are more politically correct and cautious about not fuelling resentment?
d) none of the above!
Same question for Japan.
I'd say it's politically correct for the French not to think or say hateful things directed towards the Germans. The media are playing their part in not fuelling any such thoughts. I don't know how much insight you as a Korean have into European media and so on, but if you can compare, would you say the media in Korea and Japan don't feel they should try and contribute to peacening the relations between both countries as much? Is fuelling said animosity just viewed as an easy, reliable way to get big viewing figures?
I realize this subject can be explosive. I regretted ever posting this thread after a few days since all I wanted to say was pretty much "I'm sad for seeing Akiko Suzuki's JN LP have 700 likes and 700 dislikes". I didn't want to pinpoint any special group for massively clicking the dislike button, and I just thought the Yu-Na - Mao rivaly -of which I had heard, read and seen a lot over the years, like with said ugly videos saying things like "nobody likes her, look!" "she's so ugly!" and so on- might be another example of some fans going too far.
I didn't want to imply that the relations between Korea and Japan had anything to do with that youtube rating, but I just put "I'm aware of the hostile past between Japan and Korea." as an acknowledgement of one possible ingredient.
I realized when I saw the direction this thread had taken that some formulations of mine were very naive of me.
I hope we can discuss this serious subject in a respectful way, I'd really like to learn more about it. Thanks!
Originally Posted by Frenchie