I hope Gilles & Poirier win, but you may be right that Hubbell & Donohue will win since overall they may be a slightly stronger team.
Originally Posted by 96skiluvr
Ironically though, if you match up the two men, it's Poirier who is the strongest. He has far more experience (Olympics, Worlds etc.) than Donohue.
Be interesting to see Gilles competing against her former partner, but she's with the better of the 2 boys!
Yan is already nominated to go the Olympics, and he will NOT compete at 4CC (he probably just wants to focus on preparing for Sochi).
Originally Posted by hippomoomin
I was hoping maybe there would be one spot TBA that could be filled by whoever won Junior Pairs this week, or the junior pair that finished highest in the Seasons Best Scores, which would be Seguin/Bilodeau, but looks like that isn't happening
Originally Posted by Ziggy
(Is there much difference in requirements for junior and senior pairs programs, that this would have even been possible?)
Hahahaha!!! you are so right!!!! Should I say that after D/W & V/M retire H/D & G/P will be my top fav north american ice dancers??? Of course I hope 2 more seasons for W/P because I also like them!!!
Originally Posted by Ryan O
Ohh and another curious fact is that H/D free dance is the same as using Paul with his former partner Vanessa Crone 4 years ago in Olys Vancouver 2010
OMG! I know I am in and out a lot, but I didn't realize how really out of it I was! So, I imagine I missed discussion about it at some point. After checking out C/P's performance, I am very sad to say I have lost quite a bit of respect for H/D and their team because of it. I know they have done a nice job and there is no copyright with choreography blah, blah, blah, but still...SO
Originally Posted by joannix
How similar is the choreography of H&D's Free Dance compared to that of C&P in 2010? I don't think I've seen H&D's FD this year. Is it just the music that is the same, or are they also skating to the same narrative choreography of Orpheus & Eurydice?
I'm assuming it's not a deliberate attempt to start a rivalry!
Yeah the last spot for the ladies should have gone to Zijun, but she is a weird situation, I am not even sure if Li Ming Zhu (National coach, and ex coach to Chen Lu) is still named as her coach and Zijun has been away from ice for so long. The 4CC will be an eye opener to how she fairs with the likes of Kanako, Mirai etc...
Originally Posted by Becki
I am personally quite excited by this competition, I really look forward to see how Mirai can pick herself up from recent dismissals, it will be a real test for her. I look forward to a number of skaters there, beside return of Mirai, Isadora Williams of Brazil, Park of Korea, Melanie Chang of Taipei who did better than I thought at recent Golden Spin, will be curious how they fair with the Japanese ladies. Can't count Samantha Cesario out, she is a real performer. Taipei is another one of my fav cities (very cool night life), hope the skater get to enjoy at least some night life there maybe after competitions, check out the night markets, Karaoke joints, and there are some amazing Japanese food there, some even better than the ones I had in Japan.
Oddly enough G/P is using music from the Hitchcock soundtrack, which Piper and Zach had used during their 2009-2010 season. But, I think everyone in figure skating is too busy to be playing games. Some music pieces just get recycled simply because they're good vehicles to skate/dance to. They may have a great rhythm, musical structure, character, etc. It happens all the time. The Lucia Micarelli violin piece is really beautiful and I can see why H/D chose it if their goal this season was to create something lyrical.
Originally Posted by Ryan O
Comparing the FDs, there is no plagiarism. If anyone sees similarities is perhaps because good choreographers would tend to generally recognize the main elements of a piece of music and address them. It's obvious, at least to me, that everything in H/D's program was developed in an organic way to highlight their strengths (which wouldn't be the same as C/P). The elements, layout and transitions are different. There is no literal narrative, it has an abstract mood. They just create a really beautiful effect of continuous flow and constant speed. A pretty difficult feat to achieve BTW. I wish the commentators would speak more to the technical skill that that requires as opposed to only praising how 'touching' or 'beautiful' the program is.
Seguin/Bilodeau have comfortably made the 4CC TES minimums at 2013 Czech Skate. - http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpcze2013/
Originally Posted by SubRosa
I forgot to take Junior teams into consideration.
she takes the audience on her journey of emotions
Me too, isn't she going to the Olympics?
Originally Posted by demarinis5
Anyway, I too would put her as the favorite for gold, followed by Mirai and Zijun Lin?
Have we gotten confirmation yet on if Mirai will be attending?
em…Han Yan's name is indeed not on the entry list--that probably means he is the one selected to go to Sochi.
If Mingzhu Li is not Zijun's coach, who is now? and What's the reason?
I checked her ISU bio and Mingzu li is listed as her coach.
On the other hand, I noticed Kexin Zhang's switched her coach to Mingzu Li on her ISU bio. Don't really know what's going on with the Chinese skaters.
Li Mingzu (primary coach) and Li Chengjiang (secondary coach) coach the Chinese Ladies National Team. All the best female skaters are with them.
Zhang Kexin has been training with them for a while now.