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    Quote Originally Posted by 96skiluvr View Post

    I see Hubbell & Donohue winning Dance, followed by Gilles & Poirier, and the bronze going to either Aldridge & Eaton or Lynn & Logan
    I hope Gilles & Poirier win, but you may be right that Hubbell & Donohue will win since overall they may be a slightly stronger team.

    Ironically though, if you match up the two men, it's Poirier who is the strongest. He has far more experience (Olympics, Worlds etc.) than Donohue.

    Be interesting to see Gilles competing against her former partner, but she's with the better of the 2 boys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippomoomin View Post
    It also looks like the federation is still deciding who exactly they should send to Sochi, especially between Nan Song and Han Yan for men. And I predict Yan is going to do better.
    Yan is already nominated to go the Olympics, and he will NOT compete at 4CC (he probably just wants to focus on preparing for Sochi).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Canada only sending two pairs because they don't have a third team with the minimum scores because of Skate Canada not allowing their teams to freely enter international events. Honestly...
    I was hoping maybe there would be one spot TBA that could be filled by whoever won Junior Pairs this week, or the junior pair that finished highest in the Seasons Best Scores, which would be Seguin/Bilodeau, but looks like that isn't happening

    (Is there much difference in requirements for junior and senior pairs programs, that this would have even been possible?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan O View Post
    I hope Gilles & Poirier win, but you may be right that Hubbell & Donohue will win since overall they may be a slightly stronger team.

    Ironically though, if you match up the two men, it's Poirier who is the strongest. He has far more experience (Olympics, Worlds etc.) than Donohue.

    Be interesting to see Gilles competing against her former partner, but she's with the better of the 2 boys!
    Hahahaha!!! you are so right!!!! Should I say that after D/W & V/M retire H/D & G/P will be my top fav north american ice dancers??? Of course I hope 2 more seasons for W/P because I also like them!!!

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    Ohh and another curious fact is that H/D free dance is the same as using Paul with his former partner Vanessa Crone 4 years ago in Olys Vancouver 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by joannix View Post
    Ohh and another curious fact is that H/D free dance is the same as using Paul with his former partner Vanessa Crone 4 years ago in Olys Vancouver 2010
    OMG! I know I am in and out a lot, but I didn't realize how really out of it I was! So, I imagine I missed discussion about it at some point. After checking out C/P's performance, I am very sad to say I have lost quite a bit of respect for H/D and their team because of it. I know they have done a nice job and there is no copyright with choreography blah, blah, blah, but still...SO

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    How similar is the choreography of H&D's Free Dance compared to that of C&P in 2010? I don't think I've seen H&D's FD this year. Is it just the music that is the same, or are they also skating to the same narrative choreography of Orpheus & Eurydice?

    I'm assuming it's not a deliberate attempt to start a rivalry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becki View Post
    Oh no, I heard that the Chinese federation has already nominated Han Yan to the Winter Olympics. The 4CC results will not count towards the Olympic qualifications except for maybe the ladies' final spot - Kexin Zhang has already been named, there's one more spot left.
    Yeah the last spot for the ladies should have gone to Zijun, but she is a weird situation, I am not even sure if Li Ming Zhu (National coach, and ex coach to Chen Lu) is still named as her coach and Zijun has been away from ice for so long. The 4CC will be an eye opener to how she fairs with the likes of Kanako, Mirai etc...

    I am personally quite excited by this competition, I really look forward to see how Mirai can pick herself up from recent dismissals, it will be a real test for her. I look forward to a number of skaters there, beside return of Mirai, Isadora Williams of Brazil, Park of Korea, Melanie Chang of Taipei who did better than I thought at recent Golden Spin, will be curious how they fair with the Japanese ladies. Can't count Samantha Cesario out, she is a real performer. Taipei is another one of my fav cities (very cool night life), hope the skater get to enjoy at least some night life there maybe after competitions, check out the night markets, Karaoke joints, and there are some amazing Japanese food there, some even better than the ones I had in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan O View Post
    How similar is the choreography of H&D's Free Dance compared to that of C&P in 2010? I don't think I've seen H&D's FD this year. Is it just the music that is the same, or are they also skating to the same narrative choreography of Orpheus & Eurydice?

    I'm assuming it's not a deliberate attempt to start a rivalry!
    Oddly enough G/P is using music from the Hitchcock soundtrack, which Piper and Zach had used during their 2009-2010 season. But, I think everyone in figure skating is too busy to be playing games. Some music pieces just get recycled simply because they're good vehicles to skate/dance to. They may have a great rhythm, musical structure, character, etc. It happens all the time. The Lucia Micarelli violin piece is really beautiful and I can see why H/D chose it if their goal this season was to create something lyrical.

    Comparing the FDs, there is no plagiarism. If anyone sees similarities is perhaps because good choreographers would tend to generally recognize the main elements of a piece of music and address them. It's obvious, at least to me, that everything in H/D's program was developed in an organic way to highlight their strengths (which wouldn't be the same as C/P). The elements, layout and transitions are different. There is no literal narrative, it has an abstract mood. They just create a really beautiful effect of continuous flow and constant speed. A pretty difficult feat to achieve BTW. I wish the commentators would speak more to the technical skill that that requires as opposed to only praising how 'touching' or 'beautiful' the program is.

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    I think I agree with u Snowwhite..oppps Blancanieves... though there could´ve been similarities in some cuts of their choreography I think both team have marked their own signature which is good!! I wish I see the program Piper and Zach did when they were juniors? However I still feel in awe everytime I see the Hitchcock program made by Piper and Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubRosa View Post
    (Is there much difference in requirements for junior and senior pairs programs, that this would have even been possible?)
    Seguin/Bilodeau have comfortably made the 4CC TES minimums at 2013 Czech Skate. - http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpcze2013/

    I forgot to take Junior teams into consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    Suprised to see that Kanako is listed for this competition.
    Me too, isn't she going to the Olympics?

    Anyway, I too would put her as the favorite for gold, followed by Mirai and Zijun Lin?

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    Have we gotten confirmation yet on if Mirai will be attending?

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    em…Han Yan's name is indeed not on the entry list--that probably means he is the one selected to go to Sochi.

    If Mingzhu Li is not Zijun's coach, who is now? and What's the reason?
    I checked her ISU bio and Mingzu li is listed as her coach.

    On the other hand, I noticed Kexin Zhang's switched her coach to Mingzu Li on her ISU bio. Don't really know what's going on with the Chinese skaters.

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    Li Mingzu (primary coach) and Li Chengjiang (secondary coach) coach the Chinese Ladies National Team. All the best female skaters are with them.

    Zhang Kexin has been training with them for a while now.

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