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    Quote Originally Posted by RABID View Post
    Sorry, as much of a fan I am of hers, this program makes me antsy. For the life of me I don't get how some have actually dismissed Clowns in favor of this long program; it's so "white toast in warm milk". Obviously she can still win gold with it but in its current state it's not likely to persuade any spectators who aren't judges, especially if the Sochi audience have already seen a clean performance by Julia. It needs tweaking even if that only means breaking up the languid pace of it; perhaps increase the speed of her spin to a kind of fast musical punctuation, for example. I sure hope David and her have been in discussion. I would rather her go out with something brilliant and lose than her win with something so pedestrian although either way I wont be sad if she wins gold.
    In fact, Adios is one of the most difficult program to skate to. Experimental. I always wonder how she is going to pull this off. Is it even possible? That shows something about Kim. what I at least appreciate in her choice is that she does not play safe. Send in the Clown is a safe one; anyone can see that. A proper music to skate to and easy. why didn't she pick a similar one in free? That's laudable.

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    Someone said the music is excruciating. I disagree. The music cut as is grows on you, but if you listen to the unedited version it's really powerful. I'm sad they didn't include the deepest emotions of the music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTriple View Post
    In fact, Adios is one of the most difficult program to skate to. Experimental. I always wonder how she is going to pull this off. Is it even possible? That shows something about Kim. what I at least appreciate in her choice is that she does not play safe. Send in the Clown is a safe one; anyone can see that. A proper music to skate to and easy. why didn't she pick a similar one in free? That's laudable.
    Half triple could you explain to us non-skaters and skaters too, why and where the difficulty is? Thank you. I really want to understand this as someone said this before-YuNa herself, but what is it? If you cannot explain can someone else who is a skating expert explain how difficult this is? This is a sincere question. At this point, I am liking the Sp much more.

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    Yuna's programs this season bore me. The musical selections are poor and she isn't bringing it performance-wise, especially in the long program. Maybe she is too introverted to pull off a tango? She isn't giving any of the fire needed to bring the program to life. She is skating the program like a robot/zombie.

    I also don't see how her program is that difficult. She is basically doing a million crossovers across the whole expanse of the rink with no transitions (except for the spread eagle into double axel) into her jumps. She is in no way the female Patrick Chan in terms of the complexity her programs. In fact, I feel that she and Wilson often use arm movements to distract from the lack of complexity of her programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selene View Post
    She is skating the program like a robot/zombie.
    Speechless

    We talk about one of the best PCS scorer Yuna Kim, not some robot jumping bean at junior level

    OK, just say whatever you want, I'm done

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    I do not like her musical choice this year. "Adios" was great for Jeff Buttle in his short program in 2008 when he won "Worlds". But his cut was great. YuNa's "Adios" is slow and boring. Her "Clowns" is too quiet for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTriple View Post
    In fact, Adios is one of the most difficult program to skate to. Experimental. I always wonder how she is going to pull this off. Is it even possible?
    I agree. This music is a sad jazz tango. Yuna's interpretation is not sad, not jazzy, and not a tango. Just Yuna.

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    No one has answered me why this is so difficult, so I will assume it is only someone's opinion, or someone repeating what YuNa said. She did not say why it was difficult, and maybe, she took out transitions david put in to make it less so. I don't know. I wish someone would address that, tho.

    YuNa has skated to Tango Roxanne, and she was very fiery then. It was a long time ago, tho, and that is the criticism, that YuNa did not skate with fire and commitment at either nationals or Zagreb. Les Mis was very good music for her and I liked it. She maybe was in better shape last year, no stated injury as in this year.

    Well, I have watched Clowns a few times. YuNa is not ever over stated in her facial expressions. She does however seem to feel this music if you watch her face. And it was skated litely. I like it better every time I watch. Her SP is not the problem. I feel she will not win the crowd at this point with Adios Nonino. It needs a lot I think. But comparing 2014 to 2010 Yuna is a no win, even Les Mis. I thought was well done, and clearly it was a clean great skate for Yuna and she deserved to win. I think many Yuna fans just wanted to see some special, hardly used music, different choreo. I was hoping David Wilson would out do himself. My idea was to revive "Lark" a program from the young innocent YuNa and see what it would look like as a mature young lady who has won an OGM. The choreography of many CoP programs are about amassing points. Like RABID said, I'd rather see something very special, and memorable, and stunning dress and music than something that was the best technical program they could maange to get her on podium. I am afraid many will be looking for 2010 Yuna. Korea will love whatever she does, but after waiting so long and seeing so little of her this year, it is only normal for all the regular fans to be expecting something awesome. And ubers too.

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    ^I believe Yuna Kim said something about there being no "breaks" in Adios, she's constantly moving from element to element, and thus it requires more stamina, strength, and energy than any of her previous LPs did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    Like RABID said, I'd rather see something very special, and memorable, and stunning dress and music than something that was the best technical program they could maange to get her on podium. I am afraid many will be looking for 2010 Yuna. Korea will love whatever she does, but after waiting so long and seeing so little of her this year, it is only normal for all the regular fans to be expecting something awesome. And ubers too.
    Okay, please do not said for our fans's mind as if you are one of us

    We did expect, yes, but not something "must be very special" eveytime she show us her hard work products. Yuna is human afterall, she has her limit, she was tired too, why always complain "this not good enough for her standard"; "this good but not masterpiece"; "this great for eveyone else but not for Yuna" blah blah blah ... so frustrating

    And it's not like you appreciate Yuna sooo much to want her do something more special for her good, you simply just want to find something to criticize her, nothing Yuna do make you feel "ah, it's great", so get over it

    You hate her then fine, don't care, leave her alone, thank you!!!

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    and around and around it goes...
    and around and around it goes...

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    Please calm down. No one hates Yuna, esp the person...do not use incendiary words like "hate." It is ridiculous false and sounds childish. She is your idol, I am sure. We all want to see Olympic level skating from all the ladues!!!! Please chill, I am sure it will get better. She doesn't need you to act like a Doberman. Please, be polite. We discuss opinions here and it is no slight to you. I am sorry if you do not understand. Be well.

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    i feel like things are just being reiterated at this point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilahozi View Post
    ^I believe Yuna Kim said something about there being no "breaks" in Adios, she's constantly moving from element to element, and thus it requires more stamina, strength, and energy than any of her previous LPs did.
    There is at most only one moment where she kinda "pauses" in the program--the end of her step-sequence when she extends her arm towards the judges. Otherwise, she's moving the whole time, particularly her arms. Compared to Les Mis there's a bit more arm movement and turns. She does a lot of smooth gliding and gentle arm movements in Les Mis that I imagine take less energy by comparison.

    She's also said that her age has caught up with her now in terms of stamina. Some things don't come as easy anymore like they use to in 2010. She's four years older so that's no surprise.

    It could also be the music--the flurry of notes in her choreographic sequence at the end demands energy and rapid movements, as opposed to her Les Mis choreo sequence which by the nature of the music helps to carry her to the end. There is music than can imbue you with energy and then there's music that demands energy from you. I think Adios is the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    I am a fan, always have been, not a fan of fanatic ubers tho. How DARE you use the word hate.

    blah blah blah
    You are A FAN? Thank you for a good, oh wait hell no, great laugh

    And, I'm not Korean as well as a kid, that's all for you honey, welcome to my ignore list

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