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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8ingcoach View Post
    Lori has been to Oberstdorf many times. And after all these years i would think Lori would be loyal enough to drop everything she is doing and go help her. She still hasnt skated the Bolero since March, i would think Kostner would need some work to get it back to peak performance.
    I was just thinking she probably has lots of last minute tweaking to do for her other clients and this late in the game they would have to come to Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchie View Post
    If Caro does go back to Bolero, I hope she and Lori Nichol work on rescheduling the elements to have the last 3S way earlier. Sure, the idea of having it in the last seconds was exciting, but the success rate didn't speak in favor of it. Plus, I think Caro must have felt quite tense up until that last second of the program, instead of letting completely go and ooze with charisma even more during the rest of the program after the last jump.
    I agree about the ending. Maybe put the double axel there? Or, end it the way Michelle did in her Bolero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsED...tailpage#t=266 The ending there was more effective than the program overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    I agree about the ending. Maybe put the double axel there? Or, end it the way Michelle did in her Bolero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsED...tailpage#t=266 The ending there was more effective than the program overall.
    I was thinking more along the lines of "be done with all the jumps sooner". I think landing a clean 2A after 4 minutes and 5 seconds would still be a big risk, and she'd be less tense during the last minute if there was no jump yet to come.

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    I appreciate Carolina is doing everything she can to win OGM or at least a medal. This woman has had three good chances to win a medal - this is probably the last one probably. I know there are a lot of caro fans and I have started to really appreciate her more as a skater. If I remember correctly there were many good reasons not to send her to the last olympics - I think Marchesi beat her at Nationals (or was at in respect to world's). Nevertheless Carolina has been given a lot of support from her national skating federation. I hope they make her skate at nationals if it hasn't occurred already. She has had her breaks

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    Caro is way better than the 3rd best Italian, so I don't see it being controversial at all if she makes the team without skating Nationals.

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    If Caro was so good then why did she lose back then to the now third best Italian. It is all perspective. What is fair versus who is likely to win or do better is two different things. life isn't fair of course. I can see a lot of irony and of course we don't hear about the misfortune of the "no names" long forgotten. Sure, things worked out for Michelle Kwan after she was booted off for Nancy - though Kwan was lucky no age restrictions applied then. But for some skaters the almost can be very painful. THink about it what if for example Dai wins gold and more glory, money and honour and say Kozuka or Oda end up flipping burgers. If they started even keel but one gets bad luck and heads "dwonawards" and the other gets goodluck but just a bit of luck there is a huge division. But fairness and what is right is in the eye of the beholder.

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    On a good day Caro is the best in the world on a bad day she is horrific but she has always been held up so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    Caro is way better than the 3rd best Italian, so I don't see it being controversial at all if she makes the team without skating Nationals.
    Valnetina won 2014 nationals with a score I believe of around 164

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    Well at least Valentina gets to go I assume to the olympics this time. I kind of thought you could miss nationals for injury and possibly be put on the team; now it seems you can do it for whatever reason. Mind you each nation is different - still you can see some poor person getting the short end of the stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    If Caro was so good then why did she lose back then to the now third best Italian. It is all perspective.
    And yet, the next month, Carolina won the European title while Valentina finished 8th.

    ~It is all perspective.~

    Carolina earned her spot on the team no matter how badly she performed at the Olympics. Valentina didn't even have GP assignments that year while Carolina finished 6th in both of hers. Going back to the 2008-2009 season, Carolina won more medals that season than Valentina did from 2006 to 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchie View Post
    I was thinking more along the lines of "be done with all the jumps sooner". I think landing a clean 2A after 4 minutes and 5 seconds would still be a big risk, and she'd be less tense during the last minute if there was no jump yet to come.
    I don't disagree. That's why I suggested an ending like Michelle's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    I appreciate Carolina is doing everything she can to win OGM or at least a medal. This woman has had three good chances to win a medal - this is probably the last one probably. I know there are a lot of caro fans and I have started to really appreciate her more as a skater. If I remember correctly there were many good reasons not to send her to the last olympics - I think Marchesi beat her at Nationals (or was at in respect to world's). Nevertheless Carolina has been given a lot of support from her national skating federation. I hope they make her skate at nationals if it hasn't occurred already. She has had her breaks
    The skate off was at Euro. Caro won Euro. Put out a 3F-3T.
    She earned her spot in 2010 Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    And yet, the next month, Carolina won the European title while Valentina finished 8th.

    ~It is all perspective.~

    Carolina earned her spot on the team no matter how badly she performed at the Olympics. Valentina didn't even have GP assignments that year while Carolina finished 6th in both of hers. Going back to the 2008-2009 season, Carolina won more medals that season than Valentina did from 2006 to 2009.
    Not that I care about Valentina but I am not so sure Carolina earned her spot; all depens on perspective it was just nationals then no. But regardless Caroina has constantly been given breaks even when she skates really bad. Her Skating skills while good are minor compared to Chan or Dai forget gender but she is marked up and inflated like there is no tomorrow.

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    [QUOTE=FlattFan;816594]The skate off was at Euro. Caro won Euro. Put out a 3F-3T.
    She earned her spot in 2010 Olympics.[/QUOTEI am playing devil's advocate. Don't you people have some feeling. Carolina gets the glitz, glamour and support rules allowed for it but they easily could have said natioanls and that's it. it will be interesting to see whether if Ashley falters in the long if they get her on the team.

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    Have a skate off. Just make sure the rule is known ahead of time.
    For ladies, her skating skill is the best. And she doesn't get 9.5 on SS like Chan or 9.0 like Dai. She gets 8.5. Ok? What's so hard to get? You're comparing ladies and men now? Let Kim compete in the men event, she wouldn't get a Grand Prix medal.

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