01-21-2014, 09:35 PM
When I started reading your comment, I was about to cite Israel, and then you did. Yes, I don't think we would do very well in the U.S. if marriage were only a religious institution. In Israel, many Jews can't get approval to be married because the rabbis in charge of such things don't recognize certain Jewish denominations.
Originally Posted by Ptichka
What is separate in the U.S., and should be, is that no religious institution can be forced to perform a ceremony that is against its doctrine. Even if gay marriage is legal, no cathedral will be forced to hold a wedding between two men or two women. The government has no power to compel such a thing, just as it cannot now force the Catholic church to recognize a civil divorce and subsequent remarriage, and it can't compel an Orthodox Jewish husband to grant a get (sort of a divorce consent) to a wife petitioning for divorce.
01-22-2014, 03:52 AM
Good starting point to think about the role that the Russian Orthodox Church played prior to the introduction of the new laws.
Originally Posted by Olympia
01-22-2014, 12:00 PM
Of course I respect their decision. They know what they want from their point of view. It doesn't mean their law is good or bad, or I should follow or not. And I was talking aobut a man can have 1+ wives. I don't know if their law clearly allows forced marriage or stoned to death. I am not a citizen and have never been a citizen of those countries. If we don't respect the law, then only big voice and big fist will work.
Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy
01-22-2014, 12:29 PM
while it's true that the government shouldn't be able to force it - they are already working to make it a hate crime... not just for businesses but churches. So...
like I said, government should not be in the business of marriage anyway.
01-22-2014, 12:29 PM
So, you would condone capital punishment/murder and forcing someone to be married because it's that country's law, even if it infringes on basic human rights? You can't discern for yourself if a law that permits murder or discriminates/imprisons people is morally good or bad?
Originally Posted by bsfan
01-22-2014, 02:27 PM
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