According to IJS, less so than under-rotated and downgraded jumpsIsn't falling a major technique flaw?
Isn't falling a major technique flaw?
According to IJS, less so than under-rotated and downgraded jumps
Seen some coaches use that loophole with bad tactic, their skaters rotate as much as possible in the air with two-foot landing or fall.
In my opinion they really shouldn't be getting points at all. Apparently Dick Button agrees...
In basketball - do you get 1 or 1.5 points for a jump shot that "almost" went in? Of course not. It's either good (2) or no good (0). I just cannot understand why a failed jump should be rewarded the way it is now. *shrug*
No coach encourages their skater to rotate jumps that they cannot land, or encourages skaters to land on two feet. It isn't a loophole at all; the skater still gets the fall penalty plus -GOE.
Neither one is at their peak! Ashley doesn't have the difficulty and Mirai is out of shape and condition. Not to mention she never could really fully rotate her jumps. It's time for some new blood. It's not the same sport is was in 2010.
Ashley was at her peak in 2010. Had she landed that lutz at 2010 Nationals she would have probably gone on to the Olympics and medaled. If anything I think her TES and PC have weakened compared to 2009-2012. She's just not the same skater or competitor. And she still can't stop two footing!!
Mirai lost her edge and drive 3 seasons ago. This year's Nationals was too little too late.
Skater's just don't have the longevity that they did during the 6.0 era. I think it has a lot to do with injuries due to the jumps.
Growth spurts ruined Caroline Zhang. Injuries and nerves destroyed Alissa. And Rachael was consistent but stiff and slow.
I think Mirai needs to move on. It's sad but that's just the way it is. BTW I respect and adore all the skaters I mentioned.
PS. I'm glad Frank revamped Gracie's artistry but he ruined her huge jumps. Sometimes choreographers and coaches can really spoil a powerful skater.
I agree that neither Nagasu nor Wagner are at their peak now - but Wagner CERTAINLY did not peak in 2010. Her peak was closer to 2012 - the end of the 11-12 season and beginning of the 12-13 one. Wagner was never really quite the same after that hip pointer injury honestly. Funny enough, I think that happened in Sochi...the very ice she'll be skating on again in a couple weeks!
Sadly this is true. I am sure she wishes she could back in time and redo that one skate. Especialy since Mao had mistakes and she could have won that Grand Prix final as well. That double axel and the injury, it has just never quite been the same since.
Medaled, ROTFL! Ashley skated an almost clean competition at the Grand Prix final that season and barely scored over 160 points, finishing a distant 4th, way behind Suzuki who would finish 8th at the Olympics. The medalists at the Games all scored 200 points, something Ashley was never capable of doing, even today probably isnt. Top 10 would have been a good result for Ashley at the Games that year, she definitely wouldnt have placed as highly as Nagasu who was a better skater at the time when she was "on". And 2010 was not Ashley's peak, 2012 (both the end of the 2012 season and fall part of the 2012-2013 one) clearly was.
She might have made the 2010 team if she had landed her triple lutz in the short program, only since Nagasu had 3 downgraded jumps in the long program, otherwise she wouldnt have even then. Her almost clean free skate with 6 triples and 3 double axels scores almost 10 points behind Rachael Flatt at those Nationals.
Sadly this is true. I am sure she wishes she could back in time and redo that one skate. Especialy since Mao had mistakes and she could have won that Grand Prix final as well. That double axel and the injury, it has just never quite been the same since.