In every competition that they have competed against each other, Gracie has never beaten Julia.
Can Gracie win the gold in Sochi?
- Thread starter skateluvr
- Start date
In every competition that they have competed against each other, Gracie has never beaten Julia.
Gracie isn't going to beat Yuna, Mao, Caro and, I'd venture say, even Akiko, if those skaters are clean. So first all, if even one of those skaters skates clean, no gold for Gold. It's a toss up if she's able to beat Julia and Adelina if those two are clean. (I like Julia's LP better than Gracie's). However, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Gracie medal. She's the USA champ and she can score BIG. She's in a better position that Rachael was ahead of Vancouver. Rachael's big advantage at the time was her consistency but being able to score big is a better advantage.
I'd be interested to see revisit those competitions with that comparison in mind. Did Gracie and Julia both put forward their best?
I'd be interested to see revisit those competitions with that comparison in mind. Did Gracie and Julia both put forward their best?
If Gracie wins Gold, she would be the luckiest skater to have won the Olympics. In most years, there are only 1 or 2 who are truly worth the title. This year, I see a line of great skaters who can win, and should win. And if she does, that means it was the worst skated Olympics ever in term of top contenders bombing.
I see this skate as strong contender for an upset gold medal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57sCIHCtXaw
More so than what Gracie has shown.
But Julia will be under more pressure than Gracie, I think, in Sochi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57sCIHCtXaw
More so than what Gracie has shown.
But Julia will be under more pressure than Gracie, I think, in Sochi.
- Joined
- Jan 10, 2014
I would just like to see her skate well and possibly get on the Podium. Winning Gold, well that would be asking a lot.
- Joined
- Nov 11, 2013
According to an article, Sato said Mao's lower back was no good after the Jpn National. It has been recovered OK now she can do sit spin as low as she usually does. So I think is safe to say that, baring a new injury, Mao will be in a much better shape at the Olympics then she was at Nationals.
Watching her skates again, I like her LP better than her SP. Her LP tells a story, and while generic, the music is beautiful tchaikovsky, in a fairy tale setting. Gracie is living a fairy tale right now, so it mirrors her life. And it it's grand and dramatic, which fits her style much better than the SP, which is soft, lyrical and interpretive- not her style. She's a power skater. Her sp feels like more of a 69-70 program rather than 72 (I jokingly said her sp might go to 74-75 given nationals inflation this year around the world), so again she would prolly be behind the leaders in the short, putting her in more of a hole going into the long. But boy, that long...if she nails it...
They should invent a fingers-crossed emoticon.
- Joined
- Nov 11, 2013
the 2 competitions that I could find were
Junior Worlds:
1 Julia Lipnitskaia Total: 187.05; Short: 63.09, Free Skate: 123.96
2 Gracie Gold Total: 171.85; Short: 58.00, Free Skate: 113.85
Skate Canada:
1 Julia Lipnitskaia: Total: 198.23; Short: 66.89; Free Skate: 131.34
3 Gracie Gold: Total: 186.75;Short: 69.45; Free Skate: 117.20
It will be interesting to see where the discussion goes after the European Championships this week (yay!). We'll get another good look at Caro, Adelina and Julia.
The times I've seen Julia skate well this season, I've thought, dang, this girl could snatch the gold. She wasn't even at worlds last season but she has somehow already positioned herself as a clear medal threat. If she manages to win Euros, the hype (and the pressure) will go through the roof. For Caro and Adelina too but it would be more expected for them to win and people will still wonder if they can defeat their consistency demons.
(For the record, even though I am so impressed by both Julia and Gracie, and though I like Ashley and Adelina, for sentimental reasons, I must root for Caro and/or Akiko to get their first Olympic medals
)- Joined
- Oct 30, 2012
Gracie definitely has the Gold material in her. Her jumps are superior, probably as good as Yuna's. She has a beautiful body line, she's blond, and pretty face…all can points accumulating factor. She needs to add some level of sophistication in her presentation, and that's all.
Judges have been giving Julia Lip huge scores, why not Gracie, especially when she is clean. In perfect judging, Gracie should receive much more GOE scores in her jumps than Julia. I believe a clean Gracie should beat a clean Julia. I don't think Mao or Caro will be clean at the Oly, since they haven't been for a long time. In a word, I expect something big from Gracie at the Oly.
Judges have been giving Julia Lip huge scores, why not Gracie, especially when she is clean. In perfect judging, Gracie should receive much more GOE scores in her jumps than Julia. I believe a clean Gracie should beat a clean Julia. I don't think Mao or Caro will be clean at the Oly, since they haven't been for a long time. In a word, I expect something big from Gracie at the Oly.
i agree with everything you just said. Gracie now looks and skates like a lady and has superior skating skills than Julia. Faster bigger jumps and even the one area where Julia is best at in spins Gracie always gets L4 for her spins. But sadly the Olympics are in Russia so Julia will get way over scored. I hate the politics of skating.
Oh you mean like when Julia draws hearts on the ice at the start of her SP. Yes that is choreography at it's finest.
- Joined
- Oct 23, 2011
ita... frank and grace =gold. cannot wait to crow=anyway, podium is totally possible now.
- Joined
- Feb 27, 2012
Skateluvr, do you actually get money for each new thread you open?!?
And how big is your bonus if the thread is redundant?
