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    Quote Originally Posted by coolboogie22 View Post
    You're right, I'm sorry about what I have say We will see what Mirai does next season and I hope that everything goes well for her
    That I can agree with! Go Mirai!

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    Partial caption for a video posted on Tom Z's Facebook page on Jun 14:
    ... Mirai Nagasu does the back drop. She is hard at work at the CSWA and nearly ready to conquer the triple axel ....
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=586432568122135 (21-second core strength video)

    I wonder whether TZ is foreshadowing an announcement that Nagasu has chosen him as her permanent coach.
    Although I suppose it is possible that the video was recorded back before Worlds when she was training at CSWA on a temporary basis, but even if so, seems odd that TZ would include her in his current teaching footage unless they plan to work together going forward.

    BTW, in the video, Nagasu looks happy and relaxed as she demonstrates her impressive core strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Partial caption for a video posted on Tom Z's Facebook page on Jun 14: ... Mirai Nagasu does the back drop. She is hard at work at the CSWA and nearly ready to conquer the triple axel .... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=586432568122135 (21-second core strength video) I wonder whether TZ is foreshadowing an announcement that Nagasu has chosen him as her permanent coach. Although I suppose it is possible that the video was recorded back when she was training at CSWA before Worlds on a temporary basis, seems odd that TZ would include her in his current teaching footage unless they plan to work together going forward. BTW, in the video, Nagasu looks happy and relaxed as she demonstrates her impressive core strength.
    Thanks for this update! I've been wondering when we would see something.

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    Yeah, I am pretty sure it is Tom Z. Honestly, she seems happy training with him and he seems to believe in her. I could be all doom and gloom about the whole thing but I'll try to be positive based on those two facts for now.

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    I've not a fan of a lot of Tom Z's past actions. But only Mirai knows what is best for Mirai. She's a grown up lady with plenty of life experience. Looking forward to seeing the results of a stable coaching situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Yeah, I am pretty sure it is Tom Z. Honestly, she seems happy training with him and he seems to believe in her. I could be all doom and gloom about the whole thing but I'll try to be positive based on those two facts for now.
    That's how I am looking at it. She has the artistic goods but needs to work on the technical. Mirai needs someone to be positive and believe in her, especially after this season. I am hoping he learned how far is too far with the Farris/Flatt situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertskates View Post
    I've not a fan of a lot of Tom Z's past actions. But only Mirai knows what is best for Mirai. She's a grown up lady with plenty of life experience. Looking forward to seeing the results of a stable coaching situation!
    I can't say if she has a lot of life experience, but she seems pretty sheltered and vulnerable to me.

    Mirai is so good when she skates relaxed, but it's like she lacks fighting spirit in competitions. I don't know if that's something you can learn fro a good coach or just have. It would be great if she could come back strong and be among the best american ladies. Fight Mirai

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK's Winter View Post
    That's how I am looking at it. She has the artistic goods but needs to work on the technical. Mirai needs someone to be positive and believe in her, especially after this season. I am hoping he learned how far is too far with the Farris/Flatt situations.
    I don't understand why Mirai is training a triple axel. She should be working on her rotations of other jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertskates View Post
    I've not a fan of a lot of Tom Z's past actions. But only Mirai knows what is best for Mirai. She's a grown up lady with plenty of life experience. Looking forward to seeing the results of a stable coaching situation!

    You really believe that "only Mirai knows what is best for Mirai"?

    That being asked, I have the feeling she is going to have a really great year and climb back to the top. She seems recharged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsaneLily87 View Post
    I don't understand why Mirai is training a triple axel. She should be working on her rotations of other jumps.
    I think it's smart. She has a great 2A, in height and distance. She could triple that. A friend of mine saw her live at Nationals. In practices all of her jumps were actually rotated. She needs to work past whatever mental/confidence issue she has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    You really believe that "only Mirai knows what is best for Mirai"?

    That being asked, I have the feeling she is going to have a really great year and climb back to the top. She seems recharged.
    Who would know better? I think many of us (in fact, almost all of us on occasion) tend to infantilize female skaters. I try hard not to do this myself but wouldn't be surprised if someone pointed out I sometimes do. For instance, multiple posters seem to believe that twenty eight year old Meryl Davis is too inexperienced and naive to decide who she wants to date. This is a college educated, world traveled, multi lingual 28 year old who is in a sorority for god's sake. It's not like she's lived under a box for 28 years because she is a skater.

    Similarly, Mirai is over 20. While I can see the argument that she is a bit sheltered more than I can see the argument for Meryl, it's not like this is a 12 or even a 16 year old with no life experience. Mirai has experienced financial struggles and the need to work nearly full time while skating and going to school. Mirai has dealt with her mother having Cancer. Mirai is also a world traveled Olympian who has travelled alone without her family for months at a time doing shows. There is every indication she has friends her own age who she talks to. It's not like because she skates and has lived with her parents until now she is so developmentally delayed that she can't possibly pick her own coach. In the current economy, I know people who are TWENTY EIGHT who still live with their families. These people by and large have jobs, sex lives, and independent and mature natures.

    We need to be careful about not giving skaters enough credit. I feel this is especially true because no one is ever like Charlie White, I am so concerned about him with that happy go lucky nature, he is just begging to be taken advantage of (even though frankly on its face I think this is a more true statement than anything said about Meryl).

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    Life experience is necessary for wisdom and maturity, but it is certainly not sufficient. And it is certainly not a parameter of being a certain age. For most, the act of really finally growing up occurs typically in mid-life, but even then many choose not to do the difficult work required. Maybe Mirai is one of the fortunate ones who does know what is best for her, but there might be some others who are able to get that right too. What I took issue with is thinking that "ONLY Mirai knows what is best for her." There is a wsidon in knowing whose counsel to heed. Hopefully, there are those around her who can counsel her with wisdom that is not self-serving. Even when the best decisions are made,however, life has a way of not cooperating.

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    I would have to agree with ICEY that to suggest only Mirai knows what is best for her hasn't really panned out for her, has it!!! This will be a seminal year for Mirai. She'll either make something great of it or fade back into the "also rans!" I would love to see her continue on an upward path. I guess I'm just a bit skeptical. In any case, whoever she ends up with in a coaching relationship certainly has a challenge.

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    I think where Tom Z can help Mirai is from the political aspect of skating. I have to credit him with getting Rachel and Agnes far better marks in national events than they deserved for a long period. If he can help Mirai get the same inflation at Nationals she will be in good shape.

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    I knew which violin teacher was the best for me when I was 11 years old and I was right.
    People who start doing what they do since when they are little, a very young age, knows these thing.
    Having said that I don't know what Shibs are doing. (off topic. sorry )

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