Men FS - 2014 European Championships

Ziggy · Jan 18, 2014

Spots for 2015 European Championships

Russia - 3
Belgium - 2 (no second skater)
Czech Republic - 2
France - 2
Germany - 2
Israel - 2 (Samohin is a very decent skater and deserves this

)
Spain - 2

Sweden and Austria down to 1 spot.

SimplyLex · Jan 18, 2014

Aww, poor Michal. He almost got it. I don't think he expected Menshov to attack this much from his 11th place.

sky_fly20 · Jan 18, 2014

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Honestly, Voronov and Menshov should have shots at making the Olympic team.

The Russian fed must be scratching their heads now.

The only solution is a skate-off between Voronov, Menshov, Plushenko and Kovtun, IMO.

and a live one at TV that with audience
for pressure cooker scenario

a_reader · Jan 18, 2014

Menshov for bronze YES!!!!!!!!!

MaiKatze · Jan 18, 2014

Haha, yes! I'm so happy that Menshov get's the Bronze. From 11th to 3rd!!! No matter who they will send from Russia, it will probably be the wrong decision. Fairest would probably be sending Voronov.

mikiandorocks · Jan 18, 2014

I am so happy for Menshov !!!!!!!!!!1 YAY :bow:

sky_fly20 · Jan 18, 2014

Trewyn said:
Ouch... So close to bronze! Wow 2 Russians on the podium and neither one is Kovtun. Plush can book his ticket to Sochi??

Zhenya for Sochi :love:

Icey · Jan 18, 2014

will tat have any hair left after this competition? lol

Ziggy · Jan 18, 2014

Li'Kitsu said:
And how is Kovtun beating Menshov in PCS by 2 points?

Kovtun has the best basics out of the three Russian guys competing here and his choreo was decent enough (similar level to Menshov's).

CaroLiza_fan · Jan 18, 2014

I would love to see Konstantin going to Sochi.

But, the Federation are dead set on Kovtun or Plushy. They have never even considered Menshov or Voronov. Otherwise, they would have sent one of them to Worlds last year.

And if it is a choice between those two, I'm going for Plushy. Kovtun is young enough to have other chances. Plushy is certainly going to retire, but he has unfinished business at the Olympics.

I still feel Plushy should have won the gold in Vancouver! And this is his chance to not only prove that point, but to do it in front of his home fans!

So, good luck Zhenya!

CaroLiza_fan

sky_fly20 · Jan 18, 2014

CaroLiza_fan said:
I would love to see Konstantin going to Sochi.

But, the Federation are dead set on Kovtun or Plushy. They have never even considered Menshov or Voronov. Otherwise, they would have sent one of them to Worlds last year.

And if it is a choice between those two, I'm going for Plushy. Kovtun is young enough to have other chances. Plushy is certainly going to retire, but he has unfinished business at the Olympics.

I still feel Plushy should have won the gold in Vancouver! And this is his chance to not only prove that point, but to do it in front of his home fans!

So, good luck Zhenya!

CaroLiza_fan

and he made a valid point
Kovtun is untested and can bomb just like now

snowflake · Jan 18, 2014

Ziggy said:
I am so happy that Menshov can finish his skating career with a Europeans medal. He deserves it for his longevity and for having improved a lot post-25, Butyrskaya-style.

Has he said he is finishing? I think he looks so young and fit :thumbsup:

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Honestly, Voronov and Menshov should have shots at making the Olympic team.

The Russian fed must be scratching their heads now.

The only solution is a skate-off between Voronov, Menshov, Plushenko and Kovtun, IMO.

That would be awesome... showed on a stream for all of us to watch :laugh:

Li'Kitsu · Jan 18, 2014

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
The only solution is a skate-off between Voronov, Menshov, Plushenko and Kovtun, IMO.

No matter how right you are, it won't happen.
All four of them have different points going for them (or against them), and none really stood out. It's pretty likely going to be Plushenko now, I guess.

Kirk · Jan 18, 2014

Ziggy said:
Kovtun has the best basics out of the three Russian guys competing here and his choreo was decent enough (similar level to Menshov's).

But I cannot stand his hunchback position going into jumps.

Ziggy · Jan 18, 2014

Looking at the scores again, Menshov was probably robbed of silver. Voronov's PCS were ridiculous.

ImaginaryPogue · Jan 18, 2014

I wanted Plushenko at the Olympics for reasons sentimental, but yes - a skate off between the four is the only thing that makes sense to me now. That or sending Kovtun based on his early season form and Nationals title.

Icey · Jan 18, 2014

Ziggy said:
Looking at the scores again, Menshov was probably robbed of silver. Voronov's PCS were ridiculous.

Yes, he was robbed of silver, Ziggy.

Li'Kitsu · Jan 18, 2014

Ziggy said:
Kovtun has the best basics out of the three Russian guys competing here and his choreo was decent enough (similar level to Menshov's).

I'm not disagreeing Kovtuns PCS should have been above Voronovs. They shouldn't have been above Menshovs though. Yes, his basics are better than Menshovs, but not by that much, and definitly not enough to make up for the difference in performance today. (Kovtun seemed lost and gave up, Menshov did really well).

qwertyskates · Jan 18, 2014

Kovtun wow..one of the worst skates from him, all nerves, great programs though.

Menshov is a nice guy but weak lines,carriage, choreography, etc. definitely, if Kovtun didn't pop his jumps, he would have been 90s in PCS.

wallylutz · Jan 18, 2014

Ziggy said:
Kovtun has the best basics out of the three Russian guys competing here and his choreo was decent enough (similar level to Menshov's).

He also skated rather poorly. News flash, PCS also depends on the performance and should go down when the skater did a 6AM morning practice in competition!

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