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    Women's Alpine Skiing

    Vanessa-Mae To Compete At Sochi. But Chemmy Alcott Will Probably Miss Out


    World famous classical violinist Vanessa-Mae is to compete at Sochi!!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-olympics/25802907

    I couldn't quite believe it when I saw this story on John Kerr's Facebook page, but I went to the FIS website, and it is right enough!

    Here is her FIS Bio:

    http://data.fis-ski.com/dynamic/athl...83&type=result

    I had always assumed that her first name was "Vanessa", and her surname was "Mae". But I only found out today that the "Mae" is actually part of a double-barrelled first name ("Vanessa-Mae"), and that her surname is actually Vanakorn.

    As the story explains, she realised that she had no hope of being selected for the British team, so she is using her Dad's nationality to compete for Thailand.

    And because Thailand doesn't have any other competitors, it has meant that Vanesssa-Mae only had to get the required points to qualify (Along the same lines that the TES is used to qualify in figure skating). And she did... by the skin of her teeth!


    The irony is that it looks like the British top skiier, Chemmy Alcott, will probably not get to compete at Sochi.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-olympics/25800077

    Chemmy broke her leg in August 2012, and was planning on making her comeback a Cortina d'Ampezzo yesterday. But the competition was cancelled because of bad weather, and the selections need to be made this week.

    Personally, I am very annoyed that Chemmy left it to the last minute to make her competitive comeback. Like, she has been back training (with the Norwegian team) for a good while now, and has attended the past few races with the Norwegian coaches.

    So, since she was at the race meetings anyway, why did she not enter?! When you have been out of action for a year-and-a-half, what difference is coming back a week or 2 early going to make?!

    You can't control the weather. Every meeting has the risk of the weather forcing it to be cancelled hanging over it. So, give yourself a couple of opportunities to make the comeback, rather than restrict it to just the one.

    Chemmy's team were very foolish not to take this into consideration, and it has probably now cost her an Olympic appearance.

    Good luck to Vanessa-Mae!

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    BBC (all times GMT)

    Monday 10th February 2014
    07:00 – 08:30 AS Women’s Super Combined Downhill
    11:00 – 12:00 AS Women’s Super Combined Slalom

    Wednesday 12th February 2014
    07:00 – 09:00 AS Women’s Downhill

    Saturday 15th February 2014
    07:00 – 09:00 AS Women’s Super G

    Tuesday 18th February 2014
    07:00 – 09:00 AS Women’s Giant Slalom Run 1
    10:30 – 12:00 AS Women’s Giant Slalom Run 2

    Friday 21st February 2014
    12:45 – 14:00 AS Women’s Slalom Run 1
    14:30 – 15:50 AS Women’s 4x6km Relay
    16:15 – 17:15 AS Women’s Slalom Run 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post

    And because Thailand doesn't have any other competitors, it has meant that Vanesssa-Mae only had to get the required points to qualify (Along the same lines that the TES is used to qualify in figure skating). And she did... by the skin of her teeth!

    Good luck to Vanessa-Mae!

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    Interesting story... the only competitor for Thailand, cool.

    Not as tough requirements as in FS, I suppose. What I remember from slalom olympic competitions, the last ones are almost a minute after the best. I hope Vanessa is better than that

    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    Chemmy's team were very foolish not to take this into consideration, and it has probably now cost her an Olympic appearance.

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    They could let he do a test skate... secretely... down a hidden slope...

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    Good news: Chemmy Alcott has been selected to represent Britain: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/winter-olympics/25820363

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    Quote Originally Posted by Near View Post
    Good news: Chemmy Alcott has been selected to represent Britain: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/winter-olympics/25820363
    I haven't heard from her in awhile and this is the last place I would have expected to find any news about her. I wonder what other activities she is involved with? A "Renaissance" woman perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Near View Post
    Good news: Chemmy Alcott has been selected to represent Britain: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/winter-olympics/25820363
    That was so good to hear. You never like it when people lose out on an Olympic slot through circumstances like this that are beyond their control.

    Quote Originally Posted by RABID View Post
    I haven't heard from her in awhile and this is the last place I would have expected to find any news about her. I wonder what other activities she is involved with? A "Renaissance" woman perhaps?
    Just in case any of you are wondering, the Cortina d'Ampezzo round that had to be cancelled last weekend has been re-scheduled. The Super G is today; the Downhill is tomorrow; another Downhill is on Saturday; and another Super G is on Sunday.

    Chemmy Alcott was 42nd in the first run of this morning's Super G, setting a time of 1m 27.61s, which was 3.38s behind the leader.

    So, although she has got her Olympic slot confired, it looks like she isn't going to be troubling the front-runners going into Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    Chemmy Alcott was 42nd in the first run of this morning's Super G, setting a time of 1m 27.61s, which was 3.38s behind the leader.

    So, although she has got her Olympic slot confired, it looks like she isn't going to be troubling the front-runners going into Sochi.

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    Good for her to be on the team but 40+ place today also.

    By the way, sorry for Lindsey Vonn being out injured :(

    Is this an alpine thread now or... I would like one thread for each sport or it will be too confusing for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowflake View Post
    Good for her to be on the team but 40+ place today also.
    Chemmy got 2 more places in the 40's in the Downhill races - 41st yesterday, and 47th today.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowflake View Post
    By the way, sorry for Lindsey Vonn being out injured :(
    I was gutted for Lindsey. When she came back at Lake Louise, I thought it was far too soon after her injury. But, she didn't do too badly, so I thought "aha! She might be doing a wise thing getting a few races in before the Olympics". And it might have worked if she had not crashed 2 weeks later.

    That must be heartbreaking getting re-injured less than a month before the Olympics. Like, it must be an awful enough feeling not being able to defend your title. But what makes it worse is being realistic and knowing that you are at an age that you will probably not be competing when the next Olympics come around.

    Ask Evan Lysacek.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowflake View Post
    Is this an alpine thread now or... I would like one thread for each sport or it will be too confusing for me
    It always was an alpine thread, as that is what Vanessa-Mae is competing in!

    She's been doing Slalom and Giant Slalom so far, so I assume it's these categories that she is doing in the Olympics.

    If you want, I could ask the Mods to remove the specifics from the title of the thread, so that it is just "Alpine Skiing".

    Or, are you talking about separate threads for each of the categories?

    Slalom
    Giant Slalom
    Super G
    Downhill
    Super Combined

    If it is this, it could be hard enough to separate them out, as most of the skiiers do 2 or 3 of the categories. So, there would be a lot of overlaps in the discussion.

    But, let me know, and I'll see what I can do

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    I just meant that if we have a thread for each competitor there will be too many. One thread for all five alpine disciplines is fine with me. I think it was like that last olympics? Actually quite a few do all five disciplines(Chemmy, right?). I suppose the mods know what works best. I hope there will be lots of information here on all sports, not only figure skating. Perhaps a thread for each sport. Anyway, you made a good start with this interesting Vanessa-Mae/alpine thread

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    Congrats to local Julia Ford on making the Olympic team! Speed on in Sochi!!

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    Its very sad what happened to Lindsay indeed, she is such a great person! I am quite confident Jules can win at least one medal again, even though Tina & Tina are very strong and never forget the Austrian girls either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex D View Post
    Its very sad what happened to Lindsay indeed, she is such a great person! I am quite confident Jules can win at least one medal again, even though Tina & Tina are very strong and never forget the Austrian girls either
    Obviously, if she gets selected, I will be supporting my fellow Northern Irelander, Florence Bell.

    But, as for the front-runners, I will be supporting Tina Weirather. There is so much about her that I like!

    1. She is a very good skiier, and has been steadily improving over the past few years to become a regular front-runner and genuine medal contender at just the right time.
    2. Her parents (Harti Weirather and Hanni Wenzel) were both very successful alpine skiiers. And when you have a child following in their parents footsteps, you really want them to do well and do their parents proud. (Which is why it is so disappointing to see what has happened to Ksenia Makarova’s skating career…)
    3. Like me, she is from a small country. And although it is successful in snow sports, Liechtenstein is not a country that is very successful in sport in general. Just like Northern Ireland (although with us, it is golf and motorbike racing that we are successful at!)
    4. Oh, and she’s seriously hot!


    As for Tina Maze, I thought it was amazing what she achieved last season. But, I feel she has got too distracted by the trappings of fame, and that it has been reflected in her results this year.

    With an Olympics this season, Maze needed to have all her focus on that. But that is hard to do when you are not only a sportsperson, but also a national celebrity.

    That said, I do like her song!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    Obviously, if she gets selected, I will be supporting my fellow Northern Irelander, Florence Bell.

    But, as for the front-runners, I will be supporting Tina Weirather. There is so much about her that I like!

    1. She is a very good skiier, and has been steadily improving over the past few years to become a regular front-runner and genuine medal contender at just the right time.
    2. Her parents (Harti Weirather and Hanni Wenzel) were both very successful alpine skiiers. And when you have a child following in their parents footsteps, you really want them to do well and do their parents proud. (Which is why it is so disappointing to see what has happened to Ksenia Makarova’s skating career…)
    3. Like me, she is from a small country. And although it is successful in snow sports, Liechtenstein is not a country that is very successful in sport in general. Just like Northern Ireland (although with us, it is golf and motorbike racing that we are successful at!)
    4. Oh, and she’s seriously hot!


    As for Tina Maze, I thought it was amazing what she achieved last season. But, I feel she has got too distracted by the trappings of fame, and that it has been reflected in her results this year.

    With an Olympics this season, Maze needed to have all her focus on that. But that is hard to do when you are not only a sportsperson, but also a national celebrity.

    That said, I do like her song!

    CaroLiza_fan
    Great post! I agree with everything and i wonder if those death threats are still somewhere in Tinas head blocking her skiing. :(

    Also great to see that there is someone else, who has not forgotten Ksenia!

    I miss her always smiling face, she had such beautiful programs.

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    Just wanted to let you know that I have gone through the schedules on the BBC website, and had added all the Women's Alpine Skiing events to the first post in this thread.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-ol.../alpine-skiing

    But, be warned that there are no reliable TV listings. So, we will just have to rely on looking up the livestreams at the times that we know there is Alpine skiing being held.

    Hope this helps

    CaroLiza_fan

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    Yippee, the Women's Alpine Skiing is starting in about 15 minutes, with the Downhill segment of the Super Combined.

    For those looking to know about the girls from the UK, neither Vanessa-Mae (representing Thailand) nor my local representative, Florence Bell (representing Ireland), are doing the Super Combined. But, Chemmy Alcott is, and will be starting 5th in the Downhill segment.

    Unfortunately, the BBC is not showing the Downhill on the TV LIVE (it will be repeated at 08:00 GMT on BBCi1). So if you want to watch it LIVE, you'll have do it on their website.

    Official BBC Livestream Channel

    BBCi1 is available via:

    Digital terrestrial (UK only): Ch. 301 on Freeview
    Digital cable (UK only): Ch. 991 on Virgin Media
    Digital satellite (Europe): Ch. 977 on SkyDigital
    Astra 28.2E, Transponder 45 (10.773H. MBaud 22,000. FEC 5/6).
    NOTE: The channel you want for the Alpine Skiing is labelled “BBC RB 1

    As the BBC seems to be giving each broadcast a different livestream link, I will provide details of how to watch the Slalom segment of the Super Combined nearer the time.

    Hope this helps

    CaroLiza_fan

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