At Sskam 2010, they were doing a posing section & tripped over each other. The protocol shows -2.00 deductions for falls.
It was a "tracking" problem. I was at that Skate America and spoke to Davis & White about it.
At Sskam 2010, they were doing a posing section & tripped over each other. The protocol shows -2.00 deductions for falls.
The USFS will politick hard for D/W, as they are the only hope for a gold medal for them, let alone any medal. Before, they might, just might have Ashley fighting for a bronze but her No. 2 ranking behind Gracie Gold puts her out of the picture in Sochi.
And yes, D/W's shortcomings in the skating skills and dancing department is sad for an Olympic champion. But it's CoP now, and as long as you can milk the system and construct your programs as so it can get you the points. Oh well. I just hope the next 2018 Olympic champions will value skating and dancing skills important again. Pure skating skills, deep, fluid edges to gain speed (not running on shallow edges or even flats), connection between partners, completed movements. Lines and extensions, and posture, are important too, but I just want to see more DANCE and skating skills.
And as for a certain uber who thinks I'm talking about ballet on ice, I'm not. As for this person who also thinks I'm talking about lovey dovey crap I'm not. A&P, G&P never did those type of stuff. They were ice dancers. I'm talking about the things that used to be important in ice dancing. Only V/M and a few other teams bring it. D/W do not. Just give them the gold and be done with it. Give the US their only gold medal and be done with it.
No, it wasn't. It was D/S in 2010, then V/M in 2014.
Nevertheless it is absolutely unreal to think about that a reigning Olympic Champions like Virtue /Moir with this absolut mesmerizing technique and quality can have a chance to lose.
Praise for D&W from Dick Button
Icenetwork: Watching the skaters in Boston, what was a big positive?
Button: Well, you've given me very broad ground there. It's hard to answer. Let me say that Meryl Davis and Charlie White are absolutely the supreme quality of what we are looking at. I was watching them today, and their technical merit of skating is simply exquisite. The way they float over the ice, the way they move, the constancy, the comfort they have, is simply mind-blowing.
I find it amusing that someone that clearly doesn't like D/W is hanging in their fan threads...
Yes, they're getting deals now, but only after many years. The NYT wrote a story a few years ago about how difficult it was for D/W to secure sponsorship in the years leading up to the Olympics: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/f...-endorsements-follow.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
The deals they're getting now are only after years or work by their agents and perhaps improvement in the U.S. economy. I don't think they got much help from USFSA to securing these deals.
... Gracie Gold has just as many endorsements as D&W despite not having even a tenth of the results D&W had in the last eight years.
D/W have the most sponsorships, endorsements, of any ice dance team currently competing today.
What Mrs. P said is what is maddening about the relative "status" of Davis/White.
The situation for the Canadians makes more sense:
It's not as if Kaetlyn Osmond has as many big sponsorships as Virtue/Moir, AFAIK. (I like Osmond and V/M. Just stating facts here.)
I'm not sure about that. I did some research. Kaetlyn has at least 2 sponsors. What does V/M have, besides the P&G bit (D/W have that too)
What will happen this year in Ice Dancing?
Davis/White, despite their shortcomings in the skating skills/dance department, will win the gold. Sad, but the gold is already sealed for them. I've made peace with it. D/W were USA's only hope for a gold medal (any medal), and Ashley dethroning as Lady No. 1 will make USFS even more desperate for that gold. I've made peace with it.
Give D/W the gold, have them retire, and let's see talent in ice dancing, again. Skating skills, dancing, deep, beautiful edges, interpretation.
People will be surprised at how much better Chock & Bates are than they were at the beginning of the season.
Igor agrees with me :yes:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pddf82...top_uri=/watch?v=pddf824-rYk&feature=youtu.be
The above is the Novi send- off video for its Sochi bound students. Evan's comments as a returning Olympian are particularly apt.
what companies want to associate their name with someone like Scott Moir and a team who gets consistently whipped by Davis/White.
ICYMI:
For starters, five prominent examples of Virtue/Moir's sponsors are in post #68 above.
Thats nothing for Olympic champions in a country where skating is so prominent... not even very big companies.. most probably signed on before Scott started putting his foot in his mouth....
Yes! They absolutely blew me away in Boston! D&W - yes, they're amazing, but there's no surprise there. C&B, though - wow!People will be surprised at how much better Chock & Bates are than they were at the beginning of the season.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Off the top of my head:
Virtue/Moir also have RBC (Royal Bank of Canada), PWC (Price Waterhouse Coopers), Lindt Chocolate, and I forget what else. Audi, which either was or still is one of their sponsors, gave each of them a car within the last year or so.
I do recall reading at one time or another that Osmond does have a couple of sponsors, but the names seemed much more obscure to me (as an American, at least), IIRC. All I know is that I have zero recollection of who they are.
Thats nothing for Olympic champions in a country where skating is so prominent... not even very big companies.. most probably signed on before Scott started putting his foot in his mouth... and that trashy reality series does nothing to help their cause.. It makes him look even worse.
People will be surprised at how much better Chock & Bates are than they were at the beginning of the season.
Igor agrees with me :yes:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pddf82...top_uri=/watch?v=pddf824-rYk&feature=youtu.be
The above is the Novi send- off video for its Sochi bound students. Evan's comments as a returning Olympian are particularly apt.