I'm never eager to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, but it seemed to me that the Nationals judges were being very generous to Polina (even adjusting for Nationals inflation) while holding Mirai down. Your guess as to why is as good as mine.
It always was. It is simply idiots who delude themselves it was Wagner vs Nagasu, when in fact Wagner was never in danger of missing out, nor should she have been. Nagasu ubers should be focusing on Edmunds and only Edmunds if they must insist on their endless complaints of her omission from the team.
No, let's get this out of the way once and for all. Mirai simply didn't deserve to go to the Olympics. Her performance in Vancouver four years ago was supposed to be a springboard for all the wonderful things she was destined to accomplish. Instead, she sort of wandered through the past four years like a zombie, seeming mostly uninterested in skating and doing just enough in order to not be deemed a failure. I applaud her for turning on the juice in the past few months, but really...it's way too little too late. Also, her programs this year were mostly snooze-fests...not interesting choreographically, not in the same league at all as her supposed competition.
Mirai DID deserve to go to the Olympics. Going by their own criteria, Nagasu should have been chosen over Edmunds who was clearly held up anyway with HUGE PCS scores and had a fall. Junior results should NEVER trump those from the senior ranks. I think it is obsurd that it seems to have in this case. Jmo.
I don't remember a National champ getting upstaged by the silver, bronze and pewter finishers before. Gracie showed much improvement in PCS, and I am glad she changed her short program. She skated well, and was the undisputed winner.
I would have preferred the top three finishers go to Olympics. Yes, I believe Polina's PCS was inflated, but I still would have placed her in the top three. Sending Polina to Worlds puzzled me, but after reading the threads and marinating for a few days, it occurred to me that this gives Polina a significant advantage for next season. Several eligible contenders won't attend, and ANY worlds placement puts Polina ahead of all Americans except Gracie and Ashley for GP assignments for which she would likely not have been invited had she not attended Worlds. This also gives Polina a huge advantage for making the World team next year too, as she will have her Nationals, Olympic and World scores to hold her up, and likely grand prixs as well.
I enjoyed all three of Mirai's performances at Nationals. No falls, only one underrotated triple, and the protocols show she is the only one of the top five to receive all level 4 in both the SP and LP. She should have AT LEAST been rewarded with a Worlds assignment.
Ashley has been the top American lady for the last two years, and she has had some very good performances. Changing her long program seems like a good idea, as R&J was doing her no favors. Looking at her Nationals protocols across the SP and LP, she had no triple-triple, no 2A-3T, and no 3 jump combo. She has a lot of work to do before the Olympics.
I will be rooting for Mirai, Sammi and Courtney at 4CC, and for the Olympic/World Team members to all skate their best.
Article entitled: 'Fury as star figure skater who fell TWICE at Olympic qualifiers and came fourth is chosen for Team USA ahead of woman who came third'
This type of article which tries to make Wagner the villain really is pretty silly. Clearly, the lesson to be learnt in all this is that Ashley Wagner and Gracie Gold should have been pre-selected for the Olympic team prior to Nationals and it should have been made clear to the rest that only one place was up for grabs, and that the outcome of Nationals would be only one of several factors in terms of selection criteria. That is, the U.S. Fed needs to go back to the drawing board with its selection policy for future Olympic and World teams.
I do feel a bit sorry for Gracie, too. She had two amazing skates at Nationals, but she's been completely overshadowed by the Olympic selection controversy. I didn't think it would be possible for her international PCS to be in the high 60's, but after Julia's Euros performance, I'm not so sure.
That also would have been an unprecedented move on USFS' part, and I wonder if it would truly have been less controversial (while it would have likely relaxed Wagner for Nationals, imagine if she had the same performances anyway...). Still, there would be less hard feelings among skaters and fans, I think.Originally Posted by Poodlepal
In my opinion, Ashley and Davis/White should have been named to the Olympic team the day after their Grand Prix medal. Then, it should have been made clear that there were only two spots open in ice dance and ladies. The top two spots (other than the people already named) would be sent to the Olympics. No vague"prior bodies of work" to consider, no suddenly going back to pick apart programs that they had already judged (yes, Mirai stood still and Polina was gangly at times, but they still beat Ashley!) Cut, dry, fair, and you know, they got the exact team they got anyway!
One thing's for sure - I expect changes to the selection criteria for 2018...
On the topic, I think they went with Edmunds because 1) she's 2nd, and bumping her would have been an even BIGGER controversy, and 2) they want to invest in the future and see her as the "best bet". If Edmunds was 3rd and Nagasu 2nd, I think Nagasu would have gone and Edmunds would have been the one left off for Wagner.
Several (alternate) ways this could have gone:
1) Send Nagasu to Olympics & Wagner to Worlds, Gold+Edmunds to both (note: this would be CONSISTENT with decisions made in other disciplines)
2) Send Edmunds to Olympics, Nagasu to Worlds, Gold+Wagner to both
3) Send Wagner to Olympics, Nagasu to Worlds, Gold+Edmunds to both
and so on.
After some thought, I would have given serious consideration to 2) if it was up to me. IMHO, Nagasu honestly deserved more than just 4CC for finishing 3rd in a year where the US had 3 Oly/World spots. Plus, the presence of Gold & Wagner makes keeping 3 spots more likely so fewer worries about Nagasu's up/down-ness.
Who knows though - suppose one of Gold or Wagner end up winning a medal and bowing out of worlds - then Nagasu gets to go anyway. Hope she's prepared for that possibility (however unlikely it may seem).
Edmunds needs to go to Sochi if only because the Russians have been pushing their young skaters much more then the US has and Edmunds was held back unfairly by not doing the JGP last season. It's time to take a chance with these girls coming up.