01-24-2014, 03:28 PM
I thoroughly agree. The casual Olympic viewer wants to be entertained without seeing mistakes (which is why Brown, even without a quad and only 1 clean 3A in his FS, has become hugely popular). That being said, the nuances of the sport need to be upheld. Hanyu/Chan with a fall should still score higher than most other skaters, even if it's hard to justify. That being said, it's unlikely that the Olympic champion will have a fall, which makes me nervous for Hanyu's 4S. Chan has a history of errors including falls, but seems to have gotten it together this season at least in terms of staying on his feet (hopefully he can maintain that).
Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy
01-24-2014, 04:52 PM
I am totally past the idea that his Choreo and interpretation and performance can be defended or explained. The idea that his programs are empty of choreo and int performance I totally disagree and it can be proven is false. Even 2014 lp rus Nats was poor but not empty.
Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy
01-24-2014, 05:39 PM
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Yes that was the reason. Plushenko never cited any injury either for his loss or him skipping Euros. Mishin asked for him to be released from team Euro and RF agreed.
Originally Posted by Kunstrijdster
This decision was made at my request. The Board agreed with my arguments that the preparations for the season started late, now we will work to increase endurance, making long test skatings, primarily Free.
Also Euros is not 3 days, they appear there at least from Monday morning and until the Sunday Gala and I m not a skater, I dont know when they are back on training after a competition. So it is at least 8 days, this is an important week that maybe he couldnt afford this time to lose.
01-25-2014, 01:44 PM
Well we don't literally mean empty. There is no skater at any level whose program can be deemed as ENTIRELY "empty". But at an elite level compared to most other programs, Plu's 2014 programs are totally lacking intricacy and are choreographically a step way back to his 2006 LP which was arguably the most empty program I've seen outside of the elements. Take out the elements and I guarantee that most skaters would be able to do these programs, since they're essentially just stroking around the rink with easy three turns and Mohawks as the main "transitions".
Originally Posted by gmyers
Didn't Buttle supposedly choreograph for him? If so, he's apparently abandoned whatever choreo he did do for him.
01-25-2014, 03:49 PM
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No, I think Buttle choreographed something for Liza and/or Gachinsky?
01-25-2014, 06:47 PM
Right, it must have been Liza I was thinking of. Different Mishin student.
Originally Posted by LRK
01-25-2014, 11:36 PM
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