Not to mention claiming his right to skate in the Olympic team event ("I will do the team event") and essentially deny Kovtun Olympic experience and a guaranteed medal, even though he had just lost Nationals.
I wasn't aware those links had such an impact on the server, and I'll try to figure out how the multi-quote feature works.
I still hope that whenever anyone changes something in one of my posts in the future, I'll be informed of it and of the extent of the change.
EDIT: Thanks Mathman for the pm, I consider myself educated now - well, at least in this aspect
Everyone who competes at the Olympics "denies" other aspirants.
Plushenko, like Michelle Kwan in 2006, falls into that once-in-a-generation category of "dominant athlete." (This is the exact wording in the USFSA by-laws -- I don't know about Russia.) To unseat him, a younger claimant would have to leave no doubt. You can't dethrone the king with so-so.
Do people in Russia really give two flips about his comments? When the Olys come I fully expect Plush propaganda all over the place and deafening cheers when he takes the ice. And it will really be a matter of how much the media plans to report on it for the Olympics. Will NBC provide a big old fluff piece about it? We're just people on the forums who follow skating, a very small portion of the overall viewing audience who has any idea this is even going on. If he puts his money where his mouth is I assume he'll be praised. And if he's not so successful this time...well...down the road he'll still be called a 4-time olympic medallist.
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And who are you, that the russian Fed had to inform you and open the door for such thing or to establish how they have to decide?
Kovtun had also benefit last year for the way the russian Fed make their cards. This year all he has to do was to take a medal at Europeans. Did he? So if he didn't took one at the european in such a weak field, why do you think now would have had "guaranteed medal"? Because other in the team would have earned? Do you call this "deserved"?
Well, after following this forum for couple years ( with my friend) , I decided to join (independently) and here are my 2 cents.
First of all, about the rule (or I should say , ruling) on withdrawing after the team event. There was a special ISU decision ( on Jan. 10th) that many believed was heavily petitioned by the Russian FSF. There is a reason Plushenko made the initial statement about his participation in one event, but not the other. There is a reason why Tarasova was not part of the Plushenko’s test skating (since it all had been basically decided). And may be, there is a reason for a very flattering signature that Kovtun had on Twitter…
The ISU Communication # 1844 clearly outlines the application of the urgent medical reasons case for the Sochi OG. And yes, a team event participant – in case of an urgent medical reason, that can be proved by “ presence of a medical certificate” - can be replaced by a substitute.
“It is possible to make athletes replacements only up to and during the Team Leaders meeting for the Figure Skating (individual) events scheduled for 10.00 a.m. on February 10th, 2014”.
Men’s free skate for team events will be over by 8 PM on Feb. 09 – which leaves enough time for Team Plushenko to decide how to proceed. I mean, the guy has had so many injuries that any doctor would give him a medical certificate just on reading the malady list!
And we all know that the injuries that he has sustained are more than serious to be considered / to qualify as a urgent medical reason. And a good indicator would be if after Feb. 06th ( Team Men short program ) there are talks about Plushenko ‘s injury, re-injury, pain, etc.
Now, I have couple comments about the interview of Eteri Tutberidze as presented by plushyfan. Eteri is one of my favourite coaches, and after years of listening to /reading her interviews, I really like her work ethic.
She is one of those coaches that never makes any negative comments about other skaters ( or coaches, for that matter) and a very modest person at that.
To give just a part of her interview as a justification of Plushenko’s participation is totally unfair to her.
So, the reporter basically tried to get her opinion ( he even said that he would try to put the words the way so that he could get an answer).
And he said that “ many specialists stated that Plushenko got unreally high marks for his performance at the nationals; if the judging would have been correct, Voronov ( Eteri’s student) could have been second”… …
The most she could have said to that - when basically facing a question about her student being right now better than the king – well, she said what she said. There was some thinly veiled sarcasm, though when she said that Plushenko even now “ attempts to maintain the level”. The word “attempts” does not sound very favourable coming from Eteri...
( By the way, there was an article in one of the Russian newspapers yesterday questioning why Eteri does not fight for her students – the Mishin’s or Tarasova’s way. Well, this is her work ethic).
One more thing: not sure where the facts about the vast majority of Russians (that are happy with the decision) comes from. Actually, if you read any comments on this subject, the approval/disapproval is evenly split ( and google translate is not your best friend for this, since political correctness is not a guiding light for many of them and many comments would be lost in translation).
And yes, there is a petition – a leader of one of the parties in Duma ( the Russian Congress) sent an open letter to the Sport Minister voicing his opinion against Plushenko, calling his inclusion a result of “bureaucratic games”.
Please read the comments on this statement and see for yourself how many people support it.
Welcome, AlexNY. Thanks for the interesting post.