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    Thoughts on Saturday Night Live sketch?

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...d-open/n45564/

    Saturday Night Live skit takes on figure skating and Putin's anti-gay law by presenting the "U.S. Men's Heterosexual Figure Skating Championships."

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    Tacky. Very tacky. Poor taste. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    Tacky. Very tacky. Poor taste. Sad.
    Agree. The discussion of the popularity of the sport in the other threads has not addressed that one of the primary problems in the U.S. is the notion that it is not truly a sport and is for only female and possibly gay male spectators. The networks then treat it as female-centric and that is part of the reason for the less than stellar commentating and lack of focus on rules, the point system, and the technical aspects. Stuff like this perpetuates the idea that it is not a sport for everyone to watch. I think the sketch also stereotyped straight young men in a demeaning way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisa05 View Post
    Agree. The discussion of the popularity of the sport in the other threads has not addressed that one of the primary problems in the U.S. is the notion that it is not truly a sport and is for only female and possibly gay male spectators. The networks then treat it as female-centric and that is part of the reason for the less than stellar commentating and lack of focus on rules, the point system, and the technical aspects. Stuff like this perpetuates the idea that it is not a sport for everyone to watch. I think the sketch also stereotyped straight young men in a demeaning way.
    I do believe that your average male sports fan has little interest in figure skating. I think it has to do with the fact that skating is a performance art as much as a sport. Probably heterosexual males who have an interest in dance would like skating, but I don't think your average football or hockey fan would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I do believe that your average male sports fan has little interest in figure skating. I think it has to do with the fact that skating is a performance art as much as a sport. Probably heterosexual males who have an interest in dance would like skating, but I don't think your average football or hockey fan would.
    My older brother used to be in the "it is so gay" and "not a sport" crowd. He watched pairs with my mother and I a few times and concluded that it is extremely athletic. He wasn't clamoring to go to Nationals with us last year or anything, but he stopped denigrating the sport years ago after he actually watched it. The attitudes that this sketch communicated so very well are the reason that (in our sadly homophobic culture) many people don't think it is a sport for boys to even think of pursuing. We knew a family whose son took skating lessons around age 7 because dad wanted him to play hockey. He saw some skaters jumping at the rink and badly wanted to learn to figure skate instead. He did skate for awhile, but only under dad's condition that he still pursue hockey to remain suitably masculine. I doubt that attitude is uncommon and it can only hurt the sport.

    Having taught high school for a long time, that sketch's gross stereotype of young straight men actually troubles me more. Boys don't need to be told that that is all they can strive for. I coached speech and drama and for many of my boys, just putting on a tie and dress pants, combing their hair and doing informative speaking was stepping too far out of the bounds of what was considered appropriately masculine for a 16 year old male. I've also known young 20-something women who feel that they can't expect mature, polite behavior from the men they date or even marry because guys are supposed to be like that sketch depicts them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisa05 View Post
    Having taught high school for a long time, that sketch's gross stereotype of young straight men actually troubles me more. Boys don't need to be told that that is all they can strive for. I coached speech and drama and for many of my boys, just putting on a tie and dress pants, combing their hair and doing informative speaking was stepping too far out of the bounds of what was considered appropriately masculine for a 16 year old male. I've also known young 20-something women who feel that they can't expect mature, polite behavior from the men they date or even marry because guys are supposed to be like that sketch depicts them.
    I agree with you, but I do think that there are also some biological underpinnings to stereotypical gender behavior. What I mean is that I don't think there is any way to market figure skating that will make it appealing to a wide male audience, and while it has to do with how men are raised I think it is also attributable to what appeals to men naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...d-open/n45564/

    Saturday Night Live skit takes on figure skating and Putin's anti-gay law by presenting the "U.S. Men's Heterosexual Figure Skating Championships."
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    Loved the SNL skit last night! I had no idea it happened until I ran into someone at Costco. How about a little heads up NBC! I do work 4U!
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    If Hamilton could laugh at himself, I guess that I should be able to laugh at the sketch.
    But I couldn't help feeling that it was demeaning to skaters -- who all work so hard. And only a few days earlier, some of them had their dreams of Sochi dashed. I hope that they were able to laugh.

    (I myself have laughed at lots of other SNL skits over the years. But I would just as soon forget that this one ever happened.)

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    The only figure skating skit that SNL did that was funny was when Nancy Kerrigan hosted SNL and she and Chris Farley were a Pairs team and David Spade played Scott Hamilton. LOL

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    For some reason the NBC site keeps saying I need to install adobe flash player even though I already had it and have updated it twice now.

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    It was trying very hard, but it just wasn't funny for me at all.
    It did not insult any of my sensibilities in particular, but it just didn't hit the mark in humor. Too bad.

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    It was mildly entertaining, which is more than you can say for most SNL sketches. The writing was decent but they used their C-list actors for the commentating roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    For some reason the NBC site keeps saying I need to install adobe flash player even though I already had it and have updated it twice now.
    What browser are you using? If it's like Chrome with a built-in flash player, then you'll have to choose it in the Settings menu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srin Odessa View Post
    What browser are you using? If it's like Chrome with a built-in flash player, then you'll have to choose it in the Settings menu.
    Firefox. It's working now, though.

    The skit was really dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    For some reason the NBC site keeps saying I need to install adobe flash player even though I already had it and have updated it twice now.
    Isn't that irritating. I have the latest update as you probably do and they ( sites other than NBC) tell me I can't watch unless I install the missing ap.

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    IMO just typical unfunny stuff from SNL. Now if this were done back in the days of Will Ferrell, Molly Shannon, Cheri Oteri, it would have been funny w/o the nasty stereotyping. Actually, one of the funniest skits on SNL made fun of synchronized swimming by featuring a men's team, back in the 80's (whenever I hear that music from Flashdance, I laugh).

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