Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 34

Thread: Thoughts on Saturday Night Live sketch?

  1. #1
    skating philosopher Mrs. P's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The land of Agent Dale Cooper
    Posts
    9,679

    Thoughts on Saturday Night Live sketch?

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...d-open/n45564/

    Saturday Night Live skit takes on figure skating and Putin's anti-gay law by presenting the "U.S. Men's Heterosexual Figure Skating Championships."

  2. #2
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    1,333
    Tacky. Very tacky. Poor taste. Sad.

  3. #3
    Missing Tdizzle and SDiggity golden411's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    5,604
    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...d-open/n45564/

    Saturday Night Live skit takes on figure skating and Putin's anti-gay law by presenting the "U.S. Men's Heterosexual Figure Skating Championships."
    @ScottHamilton84
    Loved the SNL skit last night! I had no idea it happened until I ran into someone at Costco. How about a little heads up NBC! I do work 4U!
    7:16 PM - 26 Jan 2014
    https://twitter.com/ScottHamilton84/...41300804829184

    If Hamilton could laugh at himself, I guess that I should be able to laugh at the sketch.
    But I couldn't help feeling that it was demeaning to skaters -- who all work so hard. And only a few days earlier, some of them had their dreams of Sochi dashed. I hope that they were able to laugh.

    (I myself have laughed at lots of other SNL skits over the years. But I would just as soon forget that this one ever happened.)

  4. #4
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    2,535
    The only figure skating skit that SNL did that was funny was when Nancy Kerrigan hosted SNL and she and Chris Farley were a Pairs team and David Spade played Scott Hamilton. LOL

  5. #5
    Skating is art, if you let it be. Blades of Passion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Hollywood, CA
    Posts
    4,151
    For some reason the NBC site keeps saying I need to install adobe flash player even though I already had it and have updated it twice now.

  6. #6
    Cheering Wildly from the stands
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    1,062
    It was trying very hard, but it just wasn't funny for me at all.
    It did not insult any of my sensibilities in particular, but it just didn't hit the mark in humor. Too bad.

  7. #7
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    130
    It was mildly entertaining, which is more than you can say for most SNL sketches. The writing was decent but they used their C-list actors for the commentating roles.

  8. #8
    Missing Tdizzle and SDiggity golden411's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    5,604
    Quote Originally Posted by Procrastinator View Post
    It was mildly entertaining, which is more than you can say for most SNL sketches. The writing was decent but they used their C-list actors for the commentating roles.
    Taran Killam and Cecily Strong are among the A-listers in the current SNL cast, I would say. (I wonder whom you would put on the A-list, if not them??)
    (The fact that I even know their names is a barometer to me that their work has made a positive impression on me. Of those in the sketch, I also know -- and like -- who Bobby Moynihan is.)

  9. #9
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    236
    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    For some reason the NBC site keeps saying I need to install adobe flash player even though I already had it and have updated it twice now.
    What browser are you using? If it's like Chrome with a built-in flash player, then you'll have to choose it in the Settings menu.

  10. #10
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    607
    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    Tacky. Very tacky. Poor taste. Sad.
    Agree. The discussion of the popularity of the sport in the other threads has not addressed that one of the primary problems in the U.S. is the notion that it is not truly a sport and is for only female and possibly gay male spectators. The networks then treat it as female-centric and that is part of the reason for the less than stellar commentating and lack of focus on rules, the point system, and the technical aspects. Stuff like this perpetuates the idea that it is not a sport for everyone to watch. I think the sketch also stereotyped straight young men in a demeaning way.

  11. #11
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    3,787
    Quote Originally Posted by louisa05 View Post
    Agree. The discussion of the popularity of the sport in the other threads has not addressed that one of the primary problems in the U.S. is the notion that it is not truly a sport and is for only female and possibly gay male spectators. The networks then treat it as female-centric and that is part of the reason for the less than stellar commentating and lack of focus on rules, the point system, and the technical aspects. Stuff like this perpetuates the idea that it is not a sport for everyone to watch. I think the sketch also stereotyped straight young men in a demeaning way.
    I do believe that your average male sports fan has little interest in figure skating. I think it has to do with the fact that skating is a performance art as much as a sport. Probably heterosexual males who have an interest in dance would like skating, but I don't think your average football or hockey fan would.

  12. #12
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    607
    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I do believe that your average male sports fan has little interest in figure skating. I think it has to do with the fact that skating is a performance art as much as a sport. Probably heterosexual males who have an interest in dance would like skating, but I don't think your average football or hockey fan would.
    My older brother used to be in the "it is so gay" and "not a sport" crowd. He watched pairs with my mother and I a few times and concluded that it is extremely athletic. He wasn't clamoring to go to Nationals with us last year or anything, but he stopped denigrating the sport years ago after he actually watched it. The attitudes that this sketch communicated so very well are the reason that (in our sadly homophobic culture) many people don't think it is a sport for boys to even think of pursuing. We knew a family whose son took skating lessons around age 7 because dad wanted him to play hockey. He saw some skaters jumping at the rink and badly wanted to learn to figure skate instead. He did skate for awhile, but only under dad's condition that he still pursue hockey to remain suitably masculine. I doubt that attitude is uncommon and it can only hurt the sport.

    Having taught high school for a long time, that sketch's gross stereotype of young straight men actually troubles me more. Boys don't need to be told that that is all they can strive for. I coached speech and drama and for many of my boys, just putting on a tie and dress pants, combing their hair and doing informative speaking was stepping too far out of the bounds of what was considered appropriately masculine for a 16 year old male. I've also known young 20-something women who feel that they can't expect mature, polite behavior from the men they date or even marry because guys are supposed to be like that sketch depicts them.

  13. #13
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    3,787
    Quote Originally Posted by louisa05 View Post
    Having taught high school for a long time, that sketch's gross stereotype of young straight men actually troubles me more. Boys don't need to be told that that is all they can strive for. I coached speech and drama and for many of my boys, just putting on a tie and dress pants, combing their hair and doing informative speaking was stepping too far out of the bounds of what was considered appropriately masculine for a 16 year old male. I've also known young 20-something women who feel that they can't expect mature, polite behavior from the men they date or even marry because guys are supposed to be like that sketch depicts them.
    I agree with you, but I do think that there are also some biological underpinnings to stereotypical gender behavior. What I mean is that I don't think there is any way to market figure skating that will make it appealing to a wide male audience, and while it has to do with how men are raised I think it is also attributable to what appeals to men naturally.

  14. #14
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    607
    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I agree with you, but I do think that there are also some biological underpinnings to stereotypical gender behavior. What I mean is that I don't think there is any way to market figure skating that will make it appealing to a wide male audience, and while it has to do with how men are raised I think it is also attributable to what appeals to men naturally.
    I'm not sure that men are so hostage to biology that they cannot enjoy performance oriented sports. There are straight males on this board and I have known IRL a few straight males who enjoy skating.

    Your post makes me wonder what the demographics of fans in Asia where skating is much more popular are. Anyone have any idea??

  15. #15
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    130
    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Taran Killam and Cecily Strong are among the A-listers in the current SNL cast, I would say. (I wonder whom you would put on the A-list, if not them??)
    (The fact that I even know their names is a barometer to me that their work has made a positive impression on me. Of those in the sketch, I also know -- and like -- who Bobby Moynihan is.)
    I don't want to go on this rant here but Taran Killam was possibly the worst cast member on the now defunct MadTV and didn't even last more than two seasons there, so the fact that he would even be considered an A-lister says everything about the state of SNL right now (really the fact that he was hired in the first place). As for your question, all of SNL's real A-listers have left (Wiig, Poehler, Rudolph. I found the males like Armisen, Hader, etc. annoying). Their only real star right now is Jay Pharaoh, who's pretty funny and spot on with his impressions. Besides that I can maybe stand Naseem Pedrad. This may be the weakest cast they've ever had. They're just riding on their (fading) reputation right now.

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •