But Plushenko (2006-2010) and Shen/Zhao skated at grand prix, grand prix final or europeans in Olympic year, unlike Kim. And they are former world champions. I'm very sure Kim will be safe for PCS.
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But Plushenko (2006-2010) and Shen/Zhao skated at grand prix, grand prix final or europeans in Olympic year, unlike Kim. And they are former world champions. I'm very sure Kim will be safe for PCS.
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It's terrible that the ISU wouldn't let her compete in a few GPs or 4CC so her ranking wouldn't be so low. So unfair.
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I thought she was planning on doing GP but chose not to because of injury. Also that she could have done 4CC since she got her qualifying score at Golden Spin. Then it's up to her and the Korean Fed.
I really dont understand why so many people say yuna was held down so much in SP and say the judges were against her. IMHO, I think they judged just right, because for me her SP was horrible! The music was so bad, I couldnt enjoy anyhting she did, and also what she did i simply didnt like. For me, this was her worst program ever. Wheras her LP was simply the opposite: fantastic and amazing in any way.
Maybe the judges just had the same feelings, when seeing her programs, which led to her two contrasting scores.
But this year, her SP is exquisite again, so I wouldnt worry about her.
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They didn't seem to know that at Worlds in 2013. But we'll see what happens.
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Nor would I consider myself a diehard fanatic of any skater, perhaps barring Gracie Gold. But it's refreshing that you seem to hold yourself in a higher regard than other Yuna Kim fans. :sarcasm:
Anyway, not to beat a dead horse by arguing the topic, but you basically said in your post that she was under-scored in the SP at 2013 Worlds, so I don't understand who or what you're picking a bone with.
All I hope is that, at the Olympics, all skaters receive the scores they deserve -- no more and no less. Ideally, Yuna skating in the third group won't have any bearing on her marks, for better or worse.
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Plushenko was the reigning Oly champion too and skated with Kelemen and Baccini and did just fine. Yuna might like it too, some skaters prefer to skate early and put the pressure on the rest.
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Funny how in this thread you are talking about her "strange choreography" and in another thread the talk is about the art of choreography in regards to her long program this season. I actually like the choreography of that 2013 short because it is risky and has an element of interesting menace to it; my ultimate problem with it is that it takes a couple of viewings to fully appreciate it for what it is, at least for me. That said although it wasn't perfectly performed it darn near was and that her mark was short of 70 reflects not necessarily a slight against her but the habitual restraint judges usually show towards the early groups. That is the real point of the thread; judges habitually reward a clean YuNa well into the 70's but they also habitually don't like to be too generous with skaters in the early groups regardless how well they might skate.
I thought she was underscored in KoV SP at Worlds by a couple of points. Didn't the tech caller admit to making a mistake on e call?
The music wasn't that inspiring and Yuna was tentative but I thought the choreography was good and I loved her KoV costume. Her expression at the end pose was mad hot.
Wherever that passion came from at the end of the program, I think if she had skated with that the entire 2:45+ the performance would have been better. Not on same level as DM, Bond, SITC, but still not bad, underrated I think.
The music wasn't that inspiring and Yuna was tentative but I thought the choreography was good and I loved her KoV costume. Her expression at the end pose was mad hot.
Wherever that passion came from at the end of the program, I think if she had skated with that the entire 2:45+ the performance would have been better. Not on same level as DM, Bond, SITC, but still not bad, underrated I think.
I really enjoyed Yuna's 2013 sp- it was idiosyncratic, edgy, something to get used to, but I loved it after a few viewings. She got a level4, I believe, for the steps which may be a first for her. Great flow throughout, terrific speed in her double axel. I thought she would get 72-73, even with the spin and edge call, which would've been a bit scary for the others if they couldn't get past 66-67. It was kept close, and made for a more anticipated final compared to a 6 pt Yuna lead, which is near runaway territory.
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You're overreacting to the point of blind hostility with all these uncalled for accusations. Look, if the thread offends you that much then just ignore it, but if you want to respond with all passion intact there are ways to do it without name calling. Sheesh.
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In Salt Lake City, Berezhnaya-Sikharulidze were the second pair on the ice, overall, for the SP. At the end of the SP they were still leading.
I don't see how skating in group 4 is going to hurt Yu na. Also, not skating in the team event gives her a great advantage. She will be training while her competitors are skating in the team competition and losing some energy.
I don't see how skating in group 4 is going to hurt Yu na. Also, not skating in the team event gives her a great advantage. She will be training while her competitors are skating in the team competition and losing some energy.
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it could give her an advantage but also it could give her a disadvantage.. the familiarity on the ice.. the atmosphere of competing in sochi.. etc...
She also won't be skating the same programs twice at the same event, I think there's something to be said for that.
Personally, I think it will be a negative to see competitors do the exact same programs over and over again at the same event.
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I would have loved it if Gracie was in the same group as Yuna (which would have helped both of them), and this would have happened if Satoko didn't get silver at the 4CC. 
Anyway, I think Yuna is in a good spot and her relatively early skating should not affect her score.
Anyway, I think Yuna is in a good spot and her relatively early skating should not affect her score.
Personally, I think it will be a negative to see competitors do the exact same programs over and over again at the same event.[/QUOTE]
I dont think that this will be the case. I other sport, gymnastics for example, spectators can watch a gymnast's routine up to 4 times in one week, because they show the same routine at prelims, team final, all around and event finals. Sometimes little upgrades are done to the routines at the finals, but it basically still remains the same routine.
So I think, seeing a program (only) twice in a longer time wont get boring at all
I dont think that this will be the case. I other sport, gymnastics for example, spectators can watch a gymnast's routine up to 4 times in one week, because they show the same routine at prelims, team final, all around and event finals. Sometimes little upgrades are done to the routines at the finals, but it basically still remains the same routine.
So I think, seeing a program (only) twice in a longer time wont get boring at all
As long as the judges don't get bored with seeing the same program twice in one or two weeks, that factor shouldn't affect the results. And they're used to it from various events with qual rounds over the years.
Will it even be the same judges at the team event? I haven't kept track.
Will it even be the same judges at the team event? I haven't kept track.
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