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Thread: 2014 Olympics Mens Short Program

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    If figure skating eliminated people who did the worse in their group, then group 4 would be the group of death.

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    Good luck Plush, I have nothing but respect for this man even if his PCS is inflated. I hope the standings are 1. Chan 2. Hanyu 3. Plushenko or Takahashi. If Plushenko had the 3axel and 3lutz (better if he just threw the 3toe combo on the end of the 3 lutz instead of the quad) in the 2nd half of the program for bonus he could do 94-95 with how they are scoring him, but too bad him and Mishin obviously did not think of that.

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    And predictions which 6 will not make the FS and which will make the final flight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARipp42014 View Post
    And predictions which 6 will not make the FS and which will make the final flight?
    My guess would be Chan, Hanyu, Fernandez, Plushenko, Tatsuki, Takahashi for the final flight. Acutally Han Yan and Kevin Reynolds could sneak in there as well.

    1 99.84 Yuzuru HANYU JPN ISU Grand Prix Final 2013/14 05.12.2013
    2 98.52 Patrick CHAN CAN ISU GP Trophee Bompard 2013 15.11.2013
    3 95.55 Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN ISU GP NHK Trophy 2013 08.11.2013
    5 91.56 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    6 91.39 Evgeni PLUSHENKO RUS XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 06.02.2014
    7 91.18 Tatsuki MACHIDA JPN ISU GP Hilton HHonors Skate America 2013 18.10.2013

    I actually think the guess for who could make the penultimate group will be more interesting because basically there's 10 different skaters who probably could end up there.

    8 90.14 Han YAN CHN ISU GP Cup of China 2013 01.11.2013
    11 84.77 Jason BROWN USA ISU GP Trophee Bompard 2013 15.11.2013
    13 83.51 Tomas VERNER CZE ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    14 82.80 Michal BREZINA CZE ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    18 79.93 Florent AMODIO FRA XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 06.02.2014
    19 79.62 Alexander MAJOROV SWE ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    20 79.61 Peter LIEBERS GER XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 06.02.2014
    21 78.78 Jeremy ABBOTT USA ISU GP NHK Trophy 2013 08.11.2013
    23 77.05 Denis TEN KAZ ISU GP Cup of China 2013 01.11.2013

    (Kevin Reynolds has no SB due to not competing earlier in the season).

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    Interesting Article in today's NYTimes about mental preparation for competition for the men. Contains interviews with Jason Brown, Jeremy Abbott and Patrick Chan.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/sp...ames.html?_r=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARipp42014 View Post
    And predictions which 6 will not make the FS and which will make the final flight?
    Hanyu, Chan, Plushenko, Machida, Fernandez will make the final flight for sure. The other will be whichever erratic skater- Abbott, Yan, Ten, has a good day that day, and if none do then Abbott or Reynolds.

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    So the gold medal will be decided in the short program then? Or if Patrick Chan skates the skate of his life like he did in EB?

    Well, as a Canadian I will be thrilled if Canada gets its first gold in men's figure skating, but it won't be the end of the world if Yuzuru Hanyu wins gold. In fact I will be quite happy because Yuzuru is a beautiful skater to watch both off and on the ice. On the other hand Patrick's step sequences are impressive. Sigh. Too bad I can't combine their best qualities into one.

    Go Canada! Go Japan!

    (As for Bronze, assuming that Plushenko stay in it the entire way, he will probably get it, given Takahashi's injury this season, which is SO unfortunate.)

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    Takahashi's injury is sad since I think he would have won his 2nd Olympic medal and contended for gold otherwise. Oh well.

    Plushenko now has a shot at the bronze or even silver, with the door opened due to Takahashi's injury. However if Fernandez skates to his full potential he will beat Plushenko. Machida landing all his jumps will also make it hard for Plushenko at his current fitness level to do a LP to beat. Then someone like Abbott or Ten catching lightning and skating spectacularly would also probably be out of reach of Plushenko (who I doubt has the endurance or physical reserves to do a clean LP right now).

    Chan and Hanyu could be beaten by some others with mistakes, but Plushenko is unlikely to be able to beat them even with mistakes as he almost certainly will have some in the LP himself.

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    Hanyu had very good practices, landed two quads in the FS runthru
    http://www.sanspo.com/sochi2014/news...030027-n2.html

    Takahashi is struggling with the quad, mostly two-feet and falls
    http://www.sanspo.com/sochi2014/news...180072-n1.html

    Takahashi never fell out of the final flight since Torino Olympics, but this time ...

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    As a Canadian, I would love for Chan to win the Gold....if only he could change his attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millie View Post
    As a Canadian, I would love for Chan to win the Gold....if only he could change his attitude.
    I wont be upset if Chan wins and actually somewhat deserves it with a somewhat great skate (not another of his all too typical 3-7 falls worth of mistakes and win things). As a Canadian I would be happy to see us become the first country to win atleast 1 gold in each discipline, despite the currently obnoxious CSA group; and to see us finally win a mens gold after so many great champions passed. However I see your point about his attitude, which makes it hard to root for him, even if he had been scored fairly over the years (which isnt even his fault so I could have overlooked that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    My guess would be Chan, Hanyu, Fernandez, Plushenko, Tatsuki, Takahashi for the final flight. Acutally Han Yan and Kevin Reynolds could sneak in there as well.

    1 99.84 Yuzuru HANYU JPN ISU Grand Prix Final 2013/14 05.12.2013
    2 98.52 Patrick CHAN CAN ISU GP Trophee Bompard 2013 15.11.2013
    3 95.55 Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN ISU GP NHK Trophy 2013 08.11.2013
    5 91.56 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    6 91.39 Evgeni PLUSHENKO RUS XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 06.02.2014
    7 91.18 Tatsuki MACHIDA JPN ISU GP Hilton HHonors Skate America 2013 18.10.2013

    I actually think the guess for who could make the penultimate group will be more interesting because basically there's 10 different skaters who probably could end up there.

    8 90.14 Han YAN CHN ISU GP Cup of China 2013 01.11.2013
    11 84.77 Jason BROWN USA ISU GP Trophee Bompard 2013 15.11.2013
    13 83.51 Tomas VERNER CZE ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    14 82.80 Michal BREZINA CZE ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    18 79.93 Florent AMODIO FRA XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 06.02.2014
    19 79.62 Alexander MAJOROV SWE ISU European Championships 2014 16.01.2014
    20 79.61 Peter LIEBERS GER XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 06.02.2014
    21 78.78 Jeremy ABBOTT USA ISU GP NHK Trophy 2013 08.11.2013
    23 77.05 Denis TEN KAZ ISU GP Cup of China 2013 01.11.2013

    (Kevin Reynolds has no SB due to not competing earlier in the season).
    Reynolds looked surprisingly strong in the team event, so I think we might see him pull something out in the SP.

    I have a good feeling than Yan is going to sneak into the final group, and a bad feeling that one of either Machida or Fernandez is going to bomb out...

    Question for everyone:
    If Plushenko, Fernandez, Takahashi and Machida all skate relatively cleanly, what order do you think the judges would place them in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitterpatter View Post
    Reynolds looked surprisingly strong in the team event, so I think we might see him pull something out in the SP.

    I have a good feeling than Yan is going to sneak into the final group, and a bad feeling that one of either Machida or Fernandez is going to bomb out...

    Question for everyone:
    If Plushenko, Fernandez, Takahashi and Machida all skate relatively cleanly, what order do you think the judges would place them in?
    We are of one mind, apparently, pitterpatter! I think Machida, sadly, is the one that is more likely to flame out. His best performances, Japanese nationals withstanding, were earlier in the season, while Fernandez is doing his usual late-season peaking. Or it could be Takahashi who really hasn't had a great competition other than NHK earlier in the season.

    To answer your question:
    Takahashi
    Plushenko
    Fernandez
    Machida.


    More lists:

    Skaters who most likely to end up in the final group
    Hanyu
    Chan
    Plushenko

    Skaters who could end up in either of the final two groups
    Fernandez
    Han
    Reynolds
    Takahashi
    Machida

    Skaters who could end up in the penultimate group
    Verner
    Brezina
    Brown
    Amodio
    Liebers
    Majorov
    Abbott
    Ten
    Joubert

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    Without any mistakes for all four, I would say Fernandez, Plushenko, Takahashi, Machida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaiKatze View Post
    Evan Lysacek tweeted that Plushenko had a very rough practice and fell a lot.
    *pictures Lysacek having a very evil laugh whilst writing the tweet about Plushenko having a very bad practice*

    Bets on Plushenko blowing the SP and withdrawing due to injury? (I am not saying he would fake it, he most likely is experiencing severe pain)

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