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    If Daisuke is clean and will be behind Plushenko I'll cry. Oh, maybe I'll cry anyway. Can't believe the end is near.

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    Um... Takahashi, Fernandez, Plushenko, Machida? (I'm biased... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaiKatze View Post
    If Daisuke is clean and will be behind Plushenko I'll cry.
    That will never happen. Daisuke is planning a quad in both programs and Daisuke skating cleanly with the quad would blow away anything Plushenko could do at this stage. Remember Daisuke already had a 95 in the short program this year, and if he goes clean on Olympic ice it will probably be more in line with what Chan and Hanyu would get, close to 100. Plushenko will probably get another barely over 90 score if he does a clean short.

    Daisuke is probably never going to skate cleanly though so you wouldnt have seen it anyway.

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    That 95 was at NHK - at home where the crowd went absolutely mental over his skate, so I'm not sure it would happen here. But yeah, Daisuke going clean is unlikely, so no need to speculate.

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    Both Takahashi's quads at NHK were underrotated. They did overlook because it was in Japan and he was still considered as the #1 Japanese man. Probably he can't get away with THAT in Sochi.

    Japanese men news clip
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey52DytOOpk

    Takahashi failed every quad in seven attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaiKatze View Post
    That 95 was at NHK - at home where the crowd went absolutely mental over his skate, so I'm not sure it would happen here. But yeah, Daisuke going clean is unlikely, so no need to speculate.
    Even if it was at NHK, scoring at the Games is always high so I am sure a clean Daisuke with a quad combo would get 97 minimum. In fact he could well beat Hanyu as his presentation would still be considered superior, and from the scores Hanyu could beat a clean Chan in the short so.....Either way no way in hell Daisuke skating cleanly with a quad would ever be below Plushenko in any program. I am sure of that. At Vancouver he barely lost to a clean Plushenko in the short while doing a triple flip combo, and that was with bogus and hugely controversial judging which had him behind freaking Lysacek (also without a quad) and was clearly rectified for the LP as even with major errors he now had higher PCS than Evan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    Both Takahashi's quads at NHK were underrotated. They did overlook because it was in Japan and he was still considered as the #1 Japanese man. Probably he can't get away with THAT in Sochi.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey52DytOOpk

    Takahashi failed every quad in seven attempts.
    I agree with that but if he underrotates his quads he obviously didnt skate cleanly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Usagi View Post
    So the gold medal will be decided in the short program then? Or if Patrick Chan skates the skate of his life like he did in EB?

    Well, as a Canadian I will be thrilled if Canada gets its first gold in men's figure skating, but it won't be the end of the world if Yuzuru Hanyu wins gold. In fact I will be quite happy because Yuzuru is a beautiful skater to watch both off and on the ice. On the other hand Patrick's step sequences are impressive. Sigh. Too bad I can't combine their best qualities into one.

    Go Canada! Go Japan!

    (As for Bronze, assuming that Plushenko stay in it the entire way, he will probably get it, given Takahashi's injury this season, which is SO unfortunate.)
    I pretty much agree with this entire post. And a Chan-Hanyu hybrid would be amazing!

    I'm also hoping Reynolds has a great skate and can sneak into the top 6. I think he would need some 'help' from the others though.

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    I'm all for the Chanyu hybrid, too!

    I think we'll be in for a huge treat in this men's event. Where last Olympics the quads were iffy, now, they're practically mandatory, and men are landing them much more consistently. Machida and Chan in particularly have been extremely consistent with their quad this season, and Kevin Reynolds just showed that the boot problems are a distant memory for him.

    Same with ladies, where a 3-3 is now the standard. And after the team ladies SP, I'm looking forward to even more perfect skates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaiKatze View Post
    Evan Lysacek tweeted that Plushenko had a very rough practice and fell a lot.
    How does Lysacek know this again? By the way where is Lysacek right now? He's not commentating for NBC (that honour go to Johnny Weir) so where did he get this information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    I'm all for the Chanyu hybrid, too!
    Chanyu! How about a Chanandnyu (Chan-Fernandez-Hanyu)? Chiddy's medals/Javi's charisma/Yuzuru's innocence with a dash of Jason Brown's ponytail!

    Who's everyone's bottom 6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARipp42014 View Post
    Who's everyone's bottom 6?
    Bottom six as in the rankings or in the final flight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Usagi View Post
    How does Lysacek know this again? By the way where is Lysacek right now? He's not commentating for NBC (that honour go to Johnny Weir) so where did he get this information?
    All I know is that he was reporting from Sochi for Access Holywood on tonight's show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Usagi View Post
    How does Lysacek know this again? By the way where is Lysacek right now? He's not commentating for NBC (that honour go to Johnny Weir) so where did he get this information?
    Lysacek has firsthand knowledge because he is on the ground in Sochi attending practices, competition segments, etc. -- as a on-air member of NBC's Olympic coverage team. Lysacek has been appearing on the Today show (and on other NBC platforms, I guess) to preview/discuss all the Olympic skating.

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    There is sooo much talent this year, I can honestly say i'm interested in ALL groups (Even the first one has Firus and Misha Ge who are nice).
    At least 15 guys are Seriously good.

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