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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    I understand the excitement surrounding Jason Brown and feel it is justified. He is a special and unique skater.

    However, I am not convinced he has saved Figure Skating as a sport in the U.S. quite yet. I hope he will though, just not today.
    For now, he is certainly helping the sport gain more exposure for the time being. It remains to be seen whether this will be sustainable long-term, but I agree with golden411 that he is at least defying the conventional wisdom in the short-term. Gracie Gold, who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    Gracie and Wagner are pretty princeses and Gold though good may be relying on her GOld looks!
    For the nth time, there is nothing "Gold" about Gracie's look. This girl has some real challenges in not knowing how to dress. From the Icenetwork pic where she looked a lot older than she really is and not in a good way, to the much ridicule grandma' pearls when she did TV interview after the U.S. Nationals - you are one of the very few aside from somebody with sky in the handle who thinks Gracie has "Gold" look. As pointed out already, somebody like Gracie wouldn't even make the Vogue magazine today. Wanna see a real blonde beauty? Try Kirra Korpi instead here : Kiira Korpi

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    CORRECTION:
    [INDENT]Chan is CANADIAN-born. (Ottawa-born, to be exact.)
    Ah, right right... I knew that. I meant born of Chinese parents.

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    It a bit naive to think a skater or skaters will save skating. The sport itself needs to somehow become more appealing to the masses, but it will never be seen as compelling or worth watching as pro sports, even though we think it is. I think people are still impressed by figure skaters, just like they are gymnasts, but it's one of those once-in-a-while sports for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I think pretty is overrated. There are lots of pretty skaters.

    Conversely, the skaters of the past who achieved popularity -- they were OK, but no prettier than thousands of others who never made it big. The same is true of singers, actors, etc.
    Hollywood also has a habit of making people who are not conventionally attractive beautiful by their association with success. Tara is not a conventionally attractive girl, but she was in People's 50 Most Beautiful People issue after winning the Olympics. Winning will make any American lady "beautiful".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    For now, he is certainly helping the sport gain more exposure for the time being. It remains to be seen whether this will be sustainable long-term, but I agree with golden411 that he is at least defying the conventional wisdom in the short-term. Gracie Gold, who?
    With regard to conventional wisdom, Americans celebrated the successes of ice princesses Peggy Fleming and Dorothy Hamill. But I bet just as many people today recognize Scott Hamilton and Brian Boitano. I don't remember a popular song titled, "What would Janet Lynn do."

    Maybe the Jason Brown ponytail will be the new Dorothy Hamill wedge cut.

    Quote Originally Posted by louisa05 View Post
    Hollywood also has a habit of making people who are not conventionally attractive beautiful by their association with success. Tara is not a conventionally attractive girl, but she was in People's 50 Most Beautiful People issue after winning the Olympics. Winning will make any American lady "beautiful".
    Plus, Hollywood can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. (At least they could in the past. Every girl they recruited from the soda counter in Des Moines went though the shop and came out glamorous. Nowadays they don't seem to bother. )

    Figure skating is the same, to me. Skaters are like anyone else in real life, but scrub them up and teach them to match graceful movement to beautiful music, and they are all gorgeous.
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    I feel weird about propping up a skater because she's beautiful anyways. Beauty is subjective anyways, and it should be based on talented. Otherwise Korpi would be a multiple world champ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    I don't think anyone said that beauty is the one and only criteria for popularity, but it helps.
    True, some people seem to think it plays a bigger factor than it actually does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    It doesn't matter who People's magazine puts in its 50 Most Beautiful. If they are not beautiful, they are not beautiful. I used to buy the 50 Most editions, not anymore. Not that I do not value the beauty of their heart and/or their accomplishment. I just don't feel like I want to look at them anymore.
    I have never bought them. And I don't think they are the arbiter of what or who is beautiful. You completely missed the point which is this: the media is not going to latch on to Gracie and thus save the sport because of how she looks. They are going to latch on to an Olympian (in any sport) who wins gold medals and declare her beautiful no matter how she looks. (And, yes, "her" is the appropriate pro-noun because no one seems to be debating if Plush or Chan or Fernandez or whoever is "pretty" enough to save skating--go figure).

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    Nobody knows PRIOR the event.
    It can be a CERTAIN MOMENT when quality, flawlessness, poetry and emotion comes together with the helping great response from the audience in the arena.
    Yes, also pretty face helps like a catching personality does which not necessarily has anything to do with the real personality of the athlete.
    Or a "kid-like" appearance which creates a natural "parent-like" support , or timeless ethernal perfection.
    There are quite many candidate who CAN reach all these moments at once in a perfect moment.
    They are:
    Chan,
    Hanyu,
    Takahashi
    Fernandez
    Brown

    Lipnitskaya,
    Gold,
    Kim,
    Asada,
    Suzuki


    Virtue/Moir (if they will have "it" and they are perfect)
    (Davis/White can rightfully win but their perfection is not touching somehow)

    None of the pairs except (maybe) Pang/Tong if they bring the ceiling down.


    So, quite many options, I'm looking forward to!!!!

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    http://www.insidethegames.biz/blogs/...r RobinCousins, Olympic figure skating gold medalist in 1980, the personality he thinks will captivate the TV viewers will be the defending  women's champion Yuna Kim, of South Korea. "She is the grand dame of skating, a beautiful woman on and off the ice. She  has such a graceful, classic style."There are some other excellent skaters, notably the Russians, but they are mainly kids. This contest is a woman versus girls and I take the woman  to win and become the world's skating sweetheart."

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    Quote Originally Posted by yuki90 View Post
    http://www.insidethegames.biz/blogs/...r RobinCousins, Olympic figure skating gold medalist in 1980, the personality he thinks will captivate the TV viewers will be the defending  women's champion Yuna Kim, of South Korea. "She is the grand dame of skating, a beautiful woman on and off the ice. She  has such a graceful, classic style."There are some other excellent skaters, notably the Russians, but they are mainly kids. This contest is a woman versus girls and I take the woman  to win and become the world's skating sweetheart."
    While most of the other skaters are not as refined as Yuna, it is a bit insulting to say it is a "woman versus girls," particularly with Mao, Akiko, and Caro in the field.

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    Besides looks and a few other variables the most important thing is that people have to love and adore their actual skating and it helps to already have a big following. I don’t think Gracie or Ashley has that but they both are beautiful girls.

    Love Mao, Dai and Yuna but they are already popular in their own country. However, I never see anything on them here in the U.S. advertising wise...like for products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    Gracie is not the most beautiful girl in figure skating. However, in whole, she is a lot easier to look at than Ashley Wagner, especially when they skate on ice.
    I think if any American lady does well in these Olympics, they can help boost popularity here. And Gracie is a beautiful girl, but so is Ashley. This is not exactly a picture of a woofer here:
    http://www.pinterest.com/pin/542261611354985037/

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    One word - Li Zijun. If she can land on the podium or became top contender in next quad, she will be big in China (and mat be Asia). She has big potential to be marketable (the same way as Son Yeon Jae), I would bet on her much more than Patrick Chan regarding market in China.

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