Wicked Yankee Girl
The Question is not who will win, but who will make the sport more popular. If Zijun wins a medal of any color, or the Chinese team wins a medal of any color, I would definitely expect skating in China to become more popular.
Otoh, skating is popular in Canada already. And Patrick as a 3 time world champion is already well-known. I doubt that Patrick's performances will affect skating's popularity very much.
Originally Posted by wallylutz
But I do think you didn't factor in the response Jason Brown got in Paris when he was there. For most skating fans who don't follow Juniors (which would be, well, most of 'em), this is their first exposure to Brown. And every time he has skated he has caused a stir. So I think that he could have a real breakthrough in the general public's consciousness at Sochi, as long as he has clean programs.
That is going to be the key factor for whichever skater who is going to emerge as Sochi's breakout star. The general public won't care about quad rotations or edge calls or the like. But they will care about clean performances.
Sometimes bad skating happens to good people...
I do think that if Grace Gold pulled herself together to medal she could make a mark. She is exceptionally gorgeous. Her face is stunning, even Grace Kelly would roll her white gloves down and have a throw down with her in jealousy. I hate to say it, but it counts. And she somehow pulls off the 'girl next door' look in spite of her physical beauty.
I really thought Nancy Kerrigan was going to break through. She had those awful Chiclet teeth add ons which I do not think ever helped her. But she was also kind of a nasty B which anyone with a brain picked up on immediately. No one liked her. And then having the affair with her married agent? She was just as bad as Tonya, but she had those Scotwold's Chiclet teeth. She at least could claim the victim. That goes far.
I think Patrick Chan is the second coming. In fact I think he is better than anyone before him. I do not want to see him win with three falls and a couple of doubles, but he is definitely someone I would pay money to see because I see how good and talented he is. He will ruin skating if he wins with several falls. I predict that. I hope that Chan does not win. He could ruin the sport.
I called JuLip years ago. She got bigger, her jumps got bigger. And the fact that her LP means a heck of a lot to me, has me rooting for her. I would love a JuLip Olympic win. Mao and Yuna are so boring to me. Mao at least goes for that step sequence at the end of a sleep worthy program. I am still not sure what people see in Yuna's programs.
You may be the first person in the history of the world who finds Julia less boring than both Yuna and Mao.
Originally Posted by LiamForeman
Sometimes bad skating happens to good people...
I guess I like the color red???
Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy
Originally Posted by dorispulaski
I don't know about that. I live in Toronto and just up the road from us a World competition in figure skating had just completed with local boy, Chan winning gold and YuNa giving a return performance for the ages. And yet with all the media available in Toronto all anyone was talking about non stop was whether a mediocre hockey team could make the playoffs, months down the road. Not even a whisper about figure skating. And when one does hear talk about figure skating it will be on something like "talk radio" over something silly like whether we should be offended by some offhand remarks Patrick might have made.
The only thing that will boost the popularity of this sport is another scandal like Tonya/Nancy. COP has alienated casual fans that can't understand how a skater can fall three times and still beat a clean skate.
If Jason skates well I think he could be a big boost for the US, which has been sorely lacking in star power. Not as good as another popular ladies champ would be, but he's just so darn likable, that even though the men's event is traditionally less popular in the US, I think he has star potential.
Originally Posted by Danibellerika
If any of the US ladies pull off some miracle upset, they could provide a boost, but I'm not holding my breath.
Lipnitskaya is one of the most charming ladies skaters, but casual fans in the states don't tend to go Gaga over non US skaters. I think she'll be a hit with more devoted fans everywhere though.
Honorable mention to Charlie White's hair.
Casual fans didn't care about the sport under 6.0 either. The sport got lucky because Tonya/Nancy brought in viewers and they stuck around for Kwan & Sasha. COP has it's flaws, but the 6.0 system also notoriously confounded casual fans because judging bias and politics often resulted in winners that appeared inferior to skaters ranked lower. The controversy over the pairs double gold that brought about COP to begin with hit at a time when the sport was naturally trending back to its pre tonya/nancy obscurity and the US' most popular stars were on their way out.
Originally Posted by TonyaHardlyEver
I think the largest reason popularity is down in the US is we haven't had a star in the ladies event since Sasha. In other parts of the world, I suspect the sport is doing better because of popular skaters in those countries.
OMG - you made me laugh out loud with "Honorable mention to Charlie White's hair!" Isn't that the truth! I was also sorely disappointed when Adam Rippon cut off his curls.
And I certainly hope it ISN'T a scandal that boosts the popularity of figure skating.
I agree, and said earlier, that I think Jason has the potential to be well-liked and appreciated by people who are not traditional figure skating fans. But as always it comes down to exposure. He was cute, funny and articulate on Arsenio Hall. Figure skating needs positive exposure.
Jason Brown in the US if he does well. Not even a medal, just if he makes a nice splash. People send me links to see his riverdance who never cared to watch skating before asking if i've seen it. I think he has a charming personality that will go far towards success of promoting mens skating. I have forwarded back to them his YAS performance and they love that as well.
I hate to sound jaded, but our sport is one that is internally popular (as in, for us it's popular). I mean, it takes a scandal for people to start talking about it, for crying out loud. I get that skating needs to expand its breadth, but it's pretty futile in the face of most professional sports. To be honest, I actually think at least in terms of household names, skating is very popular (the average person can name many figure skaters moreso than speedskaters, or skiiers).
Instead of hoping for the next big thing, to get people watching, it's more important to promote skating on a local level to get people skating. I understand that one skater can inspire many to start skating, but the future of our sport shouldn't have to depend on them.
Virtue and Moir won gold... in Canada... and post-Olympics not many people knew even cared very much that they won gold... outside of those in the skating community, of course (well, more people know them now, thanks to the W series!).
The question of this thread is an interesting one in that a) I don't think any skater can for certain boost the sports popularity as a whole these days given such a saturated sports market, and figure skating being a B-list sport in terms of popularity and marketability, and b) a skater will more likely boost popularity in a country (e.g. Javier in Spain) than cause a worldwide boost.
On a purely flesh level analysis. I am not sure Jason Brown will have the desired affect. He will charm those maybe who are already fans but probably not gain new ones. Many will find his skating to affected or feminine to gain new viewers and fans; the old will like him but that won't help skating grow. A sexy Joubert cold do that or if Jason was more charismatic even than love him hate him Johnny Weir.
Originally Posted by loopy
no one winning would increase the sport's popularity. figure skating is the very definition of a four year sport