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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    This is very harsh but I agree that she could have waited until the end of the competitive season to make any longer statement than the brief one she gave from Boston. Especially given the focus on the future nature of the statement. Put that out when this chapter is fully closed as a new quad is beginning. Dredging up the whole thing now when Ashley is trying to leave for Sochi and put Boston out of her head just feels kind of thoughtless. And like I said before will win her no points with USFS
    The general public has no clue that Mirai has made a statement--or who Mirai even is, probably. Now is as good a time as any for her to make a statement for her fans and for the skating ubers. I, for one, am pleased to know that she will continue skating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    This is very harsh but I agree that she could have waited until the end of the competitive season to make any longer statement than the brief one she gave from Boston. Especially given the focus on the future nature of the statement. Put that out when this chapter is fully closed as a new quad is beginning. Dredging up the whole thing now when Ashley is trying to leave for Sochi and put Boston out of her head just feels kind of thoughtless. And like I said before will win her no points with USFS
    As discussed above more than once, Mirai's support for Wagner, Edmunds, and Gold in Sochi -- and for all the Team USA skaters at the Games -- is an important part of her statement.

    NOW obviously is the time to express her support for the Olympians. Not the end of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowdive View Post
    Mirai needs to get over herself and stop being such an attention *****.
    Very inappropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowdive View Post
    Mirai needs to get over herself and stop being such an attention *****.
    Not cool. Not at all.

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    Sweet Jesus on a Stick, people, have a sense of humor.
    I personally like Mirai's skating.
    However her showing at 4CC clearly shows that it's best she stays off the US Olympic team.
    Sorry if I offended folks.

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    All Marai did was show up to US Nationals and skate an amazing skate. Now she shows class by supporting the US FS team and people jump all over her. I don't understand the hate. :head scratch:

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    This is very harsh but I agree that she could have waited until the end of the competitive season to make any longer statement than the brief one she gave from Boston. Especially given the focus on the future nature of the statement. Put that out when this chapter is fully closed as a new quad is beginning. Dredging up the whole thing now when Ashley is trying to leave for Sochi and put Boston out of her head just feels kind of thoughtless. And like I said before will win her no points with USFS
    She posted her thoughts on her own facebook account; it wasn't exactly broadcasted on CNN or on the front page of the NY Times. Maybe she just wanted to put her friends at ease and let them know she was doing all right, while also lending support to the girls going to Sochi and giving an update on her own training status for her role as an alternate. If USFS starts holding skaters' facebook statuses against them, this sport has bigger problems.

    As for whether her 4CC result proves she didn't belong on the Olympic team, she apparently was sick and worried about being able to get through her programs, which leads to underrotations. And, let's see how the girls do at Sochi before giving the selection committee any pats on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowdive View Post
    Sweet Jesus on a Stick, people, have a sense of humor.
    I personally like Mirai's skating.
    However her showing at 4CC clearly shows that it's best she stays off the US Olympic team.
    Sorry if I offended folks.
    It shows no such thing. One bad competition result doesn't mean the next one will be bad. Shizuka Arakawa finished 9th at 2005 Worlds and won the OGM in 2006. Lu Chen finished 23rd or thereabouts(!) at 1997 Worlds and won a bronze medal at Nagano. It isn't surprising that Mirai's heart wasn't in competing at 4CC's--a definite B-level event, despite attempts to pitch it as otherwise--and she was also not feeling well. And if you're really sorry, just say you're sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    It shows no such thing. One bad competition result doesn't mean the next one will be.
    If that were true Ashley and Mao would be doomed!!!!

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    Personally, I think her statement about being "confused" about why she was left off the team absolutely proves the USFSA right. It's also a pretty foolish thing to say publicly because if she STILL doesn't understand her issues then they were absolutely right to leave her off. If she doesn't understand the problem she's obviously not doing any work to fix it.

    flyushka, she didn't under-rotate at 4CCs because she was sick. She under-rotated at 4CCs because that's what she does. All the time.

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    It is much easier for someone "outside" to see the problems. But she is inside, she has worked many years for this moment, she was close, so yes, if i were in her place i would be also confused. It will take some time till she will see this from other point of view, i think is normal when someone has put so much in it and so many emotions.

    I also think she has the right to feel like she feels and to write about. I am tired for so much PR in the amerocan media, i like when someone shows more from himself. I think it could help sportives in general to show more form their dissapointment, to be free to express this polite, like Mirai did.

    But we in Europe, we are used to say more from the negative things in the media, look at the russian for example .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    It isn't surprising that Mirai's heart wasn't in competing at 4CC's--a definite B-level event, despite attempts to pitch it as otherwise--and she was also not feeling well.
    Her 4CC LP was not bad at all to the naked eye. Had she skated like this at Nationals it probably would have scored around the same her LP there did. It's just that the particular technical specialist in Boston did not call many < which certainly would have been by an international panel. For me there was no substantial difference in between her LP in Boston and at 4CC, which makes this judging system even more frustrating because one's placement can vary between 5 and 10 places depending on how strict the caller is, which is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    I think the point is that judges at Nationals overlooked some TES (namely UR) that they won't internationally. Polina's TES scores were pretty comparable to her international scores.
    Well, Rostelecom was international, and Nagasu got a total of 1 UR call, including SP and FS. And if you think there was a generous controller, you should note Murakami got 4 UR's in the same competition. I am not good at calling UR's, and rely on the controllers. I think the judges in Boston in large part judged what they saw on the ice. And there is no guarantee in Sochi there will be a strict controller. At big competitions, advertisers, fans, TV networks like to see big scores and world records. It is very possible a generous controller will be in Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-man View Post
    Well, Rostelecom was international, and Nagasu got a total of 1 UR call, including SP and FS. And if you think there was a generous controller, you should note Murakami got 4 UR's in the same competition. I am not good at calling UR's, and rely on the controllers. I think the judges in Boston in large part judged what they saw on the ice. And there is no guarantee in Sochi there will be a strict controller. At big competitions, advertisers, fans, TV networks like to see big scores and world records. It is very possible a generous controller will be in Sochi.
    Still, even at that competition, Mirai's TES at Rostelcom for her FS was 57.95 vs. 62.95 for Polina from JGPF. And that's with one less element, so if you add the BV of the SpSq (2.00) to that TES, you would be at 64.95, which is super competitive for a senior lady.

    Polina's TES in her JGP as been: 61.82, 62.37, 62.95, so she's pretty consistent technically.

    It's totally possible Mirai could score 65 at an international competition, but her international record this season doesn't indicate that: 38.18 (NHK), 57.95 (Rostelecom), 48.67 (4CC).

    While Ashley hasn't been at all cylinders this season, her TES has seen that huge up and down as Mirai did this season: 58.54 (Skate America) , 61.81 (Trophee Eric Bompard), 56.06 (GPF)

    Gracie's TES this season in the GP: 56.09 (Skate Canada), 55.58 (NHK). And that was with sub par performances.

    For the record, I loved Mirai at nationals and gladly gave her a standing o at both her performances. However, if the committee were looking at these TES numbers, I can see a little better what went into their decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    ... It's really time to let this go. ...
    If you are referring to Mirai and her statement (as opposed to GS members and their comments in this thread), please consider this perspective:

    Mirai trained for FOUR YEARS with her eyes on Sochi. And she posted her statement -- including her support for Wagner, et al. -- not even two [ETA, correction: three] weeks after her bronze at Nats and the USFS announcement of the Olympic team.

    As I pleaded before, let's give her a break. It is way too easy for one of us to say that she should be ready to "let it go." If our own flesh and blood were in her situation, I think we would instinctively grasp that it will take more time for her to completely wrap her head around everything that happened in Boston.

    At the same time that the Olympians are all over social media and traditional media sharing their understandable excitement, Mirai -- like so many Sochi hopefuls -- is wrestling with the reality that she is staying home. Talk about salt in a wound.
    I am not criticizing the Olympians. Of course they should look forward to Sochi with the joy that Mirai herself experienced in 2010. But "letting go" of the Olympics cannot be easy when many of your friends are focused on little else but competing at the Games. And when many millions of people are looking forward to attending and/or viewing the events.

    I already posted Jeremy Ten's tweet from yesterday in the social media thread, but it is apropros in this one too:

    Jeremy Ten ‏@j3r3bear
    So much goes into preparing you for when you make an Olympic team. But nothing prepares you for what happens when you don't. #SadButTrue
    3:25 PM - 30 Jan 2014
    https://twitter.com/j3r3bear/statuse...32556026003456

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