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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    Regardless of how her practices are going, this is still a good idea. If her layout is: 3A, 3F-3R, 3Z, 2A-3T, 3S, 3F-2R-2R, 3R she might win even with one <.

    Still learning the abbreviations. What are they is long form please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I doubt it. She will need to do high quality triples to get the GOE needed to win. If she lands 7 or 8 triples with good +GOE she should win. If she lands 8 triples with a few messy ones I don't think the judges will give her favors.
    I think they will award mao chan even jumps are not perfect, this way younger generations will go for variety and and harder layouts to push this sport forward or else the newbies will just stick to toes and salchows and get high pcs , that will be so boring esp when compared to mens program where everyone else is flying with their quad jumps which is very exciting to watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johar View Post
    Still learning the abbreviations. What are they is long form please?
    3 Axel (A), 3 Flip (F)-3Loop (R=Rittberger), 3 Lutz (Z), 2 Axel-3Toe Loop (T), 3Salchow (S), 3Flip-2Loop-2Loop, 3Loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YunaBliss View Post
    Skating gods prefer quality over quantity, and Mao has never shown that she is actually capable of doing such layout, but anyway, kudos to Mao for throwing the kitchen sink in her final showdown.
    Skating gods may, but judges may not, . Without quality Asada may have no chance against Kim but she can easily keep the rest at bay with radical jump layout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nagoya View Post
    I think they will award mao chan even jumps are not perfect, this way younger generations will go for variety and and harder layouts to push this sport forward or else the newbies will just stick to toes and salchows and get high pcs , that will be so boring esp when compared to mens program where everyone else is flying with their quad jumps which is very exciting to watch
    That's a great point, and I hope you're right about this way of encouraging a wider variety of jumps. And good for Mao for planning a program with as many kinds of jumps as possible.

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    Can someone explain to me how this changes the base value of her program? Are her chances of winning the OGM more optimistic after this chance? And how plausible is it that she can skate this kind of program well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I doubt it. She will need to do high quality triples to get the GOE needed to win. If she lands 7 or 8 triples with good +GOE she should win. If she lands 8 triples with a few messy ones I don't think the judges will give her favors.
    Asada's strategy is more on securing silver than winning gold at this point. Asada doesn't have to worry about qualities because she has enough qualities to satisfy the judges, except against Kim. Her disadvantage comes when she is measured against Kim or Kostner at her best skating or Murakami at super outing possibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTriple View Post
    Asada's strategy is more on securing silver than winning gold at this point. Asada doesn't have to worry about qualities because she has enough qualities to satisfy the judges, except against Kim. Her disadvantage comes when she is measured against Kim or Kostner at her best skating or Murakami at super outing possibly.
    Kostner at her best is a nebulous idea foreign to this universe; Asada "at her best" is a similar thing but at least she has the BV to stave off most challenges.

    Murakami's super outings still lose domestically to Akiko Suzuki (lol) and to not-dreadful Asada (like Worlds 2013, where one poster claimed she deserved the silver ahead of Asada).

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    Quote Originally Posted by YunaBliss
    Skating gods prefer quality over quantity
    Oh well then, how good Mao isn't relying on quantity, but difficulty. Just in cace you didn't realize an 8 triple program with a 3A would be mroe difficult than a 6 triple one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarneAsada View Post
    Kostner at her best is a nebulous idea foreign to this universe; Asada "at her best" is a similar thing but at least she has the BV to stave off most challenges.

    Murakami's super outings still lose domestically to Akiko Suzuki (lol) and to not-dreadful Asada (like Worlds 2013, where one poster claimed she deserved the silver ahead of Asada).
    Your sense of humor, but I wouldn't so resolutely foreclose the yet-to-unfold. There is always a looming element of surprise or accident at any event, however implausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTriple View Post
    Asada's strategy is more on securing silver than winning gold at this point. Asada doesn't have to worry about qualities because she has enough qualities to satisfy the judges, except against Kim. Her disadvantage comes when she is measured against Kim or Kostner at her best skating or Murakami at super outing possibly.
    Wrong. Another silver medal is of little value for Mao. At the time of Vancouver Olympics, she didn't have any "quantity" advantage against Kim. Her total base values are only 2 points higher than Kim's. This time, 12 points base value gap is impossible to fill just with "quality". Even so-called "quality" is not something measurable objectively. It depends on the judges' favors. With overwhelming base values (given expected lenient Olympic standars), Mao will be considered as the favorite. This recognition is the most important thing in this sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johar View Post
    Still learning the abbreviations. What are they is long form please?
    A - axel
    L - loop
    Lz or z - lutz
    s - salchow
    T or R - toe loop
    F - flip

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    Oops R is the loop I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    Wrong. Another silver medal is of little value for Mao. At the time of Vancouver Olympics, she didn't have any "quantity" advantage against Kim. Her total base values are only 2 points higher than Kim's. This time, 12 points base value gap is impossible to fill just with "quality". Even so-called "quality" is not something measurable objectively. It depends on the judges' favors. With overwhelming base values (given expected lenient Olympic standars), Mao will be considered as the favorite. This recognition is the most important thing in this sport.
    Of course Asada should aim at gold, and others too. My point is that Asada is not competing with Kim alone. Moreover, Asada is in an uphill battle to topple Kim, no matter what condition Kim might be in Sochi. What is problematic in Asada's skating in a strategic point of view is that she tends to play a zero-sum game, which is not working for her. But once Asada follows a correct strategy, she will have more options and also have a shot to the top when Kim crumbles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joy k.k View Post
    Mrs. Sato said she's been doing great. Now her back is fine. The pain is gone. And she's been doing her program with 3F-3L without making any mistakes.
    http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/wi...OHT1T00123.htm
    What is the source of this information? Did they specify how many times she did a clean run-through? Was it in Sochi or in Japan?

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