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Thread: Mao Asada says "two triple axels in total"

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    Doing 8 different triples will locked in a silver for her plus a better chance of winning gold and with a bonus of another record from the guinness book, so why wolud she sacrifice all of this by doing a program that she already did at the vancouver games.
    One triple axel plus 3f+3r is enough to end up in 1st or 2nd is the smartest approach and great stability in her program beacause she is even doing her 3+3 even in ice shows.
    The bottom line is that haters are gonna hate, she cannot please everybody whatever program she and her coach decide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu View Post
    And again, I doubt it's an easier layout either. It's not as if that 3F-3Lo would jump itself - and we all know how much the judges love 3-3Lo combos *cough*
    Judges may not like +3Lo combos but they want to be the part of "history". She won't lose because of UR(s) which only slow motion can detect. When she loses, it must involve multiple visible errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nagoya View Post
    The bottom line is that haters are gonna hate, she cannot please everybody whatever program she and her coach decide

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    Different time, but both of Hughes triple triple combos in her winning Olympic long program were +3lo combos, 3 salchow and 3 toe loop. Let's not get into the ever ending argument about the quality of her jumps, but has anyone since done 2 triple/triple combos in the long program. That is an amazing 6 triples right off the bat. I thought I had read that Polina was going to do that at nationals, but she didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Different time, but both of Hughes triple triple combos in her winning Olympic long program were +3lo combos, 3 salchow and 3 toe loop. Let's not get into the ever ending argument about the quality of her jumps, but has anyone since done 2 triple/triple combos in the long program. That is an amazing 6 triples right off the bat. I thought I had read that Polina was going to do that at nationals, but she didn't.
    Yep, Mao did! :D
    In 2007-2008 where she won 4CC and Worlds she had 3A, 3F-3T and 3F-3Lo in her LP!

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    At worlds that year, Mao's 3f+3L was downgraded. That competition was where she had that heart stopping fall on the 3ax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    At worlds that year, Mao's 3f+3L was downgraded. That competition was where she had that heart stopping fall on the 3ax.
    But she got credit for the 3A AND both 3-3 combinations earlier that season, at the 2007 GPF (even though only the 3F-3Lo received positive GOE).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Different time, but both of Hughes triple triple combos in her winning Olympic long program were +3lo combos, 3 salchow and 3 toe loop. Let's not get into the ever ending argument about the quality of her jumps, but has anyone since done 2 triple/triple combos in the long program. That is an amazing 6 triples right off the bat. I thought I had read that Polina was going to do that at nationals, but she didn't.
    Shizuka Arakawa. 2004 Worlds. One of which was a 3-3-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Different time, but both of Hughes triple triple combos in her winning Olympic long program were +3lo combos, 3 salchow and 3 toe loop. Let's not get into the ever ending argument about the quality of her jumps, but has anyone since done 2 triple/triple combos in the long program. That is an amazing 6 triples right off the bat. I thought I had read that Polina was going to do that at nationals, but she didn't.
    Polina did a 3Lz3T and a 3F1Lo3Sal at Nat'l. In today's CoP world that counts as 2 triple/triples. Got pos GoE on both too

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    Shizuka Arakawa. 2004 Worlds. One of which was a 3-3-2.
    It would be Shizuka! That's very satisfying to hear.

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    So...if her program layout is so technically difficult and has a much higher BV than her competitors' programs, does that mean she's potentially a lock for gold now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilahozi View Post
    So...if her program layout is so technically difficult and has a much higher BV than her competitors' programs, does that mean she's potentially a lock for gold now?
    That's assuming Mao can successfully lands and rotates all her planned jumps. The failure threshold for a Ladies 8 triple program is so low that a handful of mistakes on key jumps could send her off the podium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilahozi View Post
    So...if her program layout is so technically difficult and has a much higher BV than her competitors' programs, does that mean she's potentially a lock for gold now?
    If she landed all planned jumps, literally it makes "history". Even Midori Ito has not landed six different triples at the Olympics. Eight triples FS by a woman is unprecedented. The judge panel won't be able to resist the tide of "history". I don't expect she can land a fully rotated 3-3, but if she landed "8 triples" in the FS, a minor UR could be overlooked as a bonus. An unprecedented performance should warrant the unprecedented PCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilahozi View Post
    So...if her program layout is so technically difficult and has a much higher BV than her competitors' programs, does that mean she's potentially a lock for gold now?
    No, it doesn't. She still needs to skate the program nearly perfectly which has never happened in her life. She can beat a perfect Kim with it but she can't afford any landing errors or pops/UR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilahozi View Post
    So...if her program layout is so technically difficult and has a much higher BV than her competitors' programs, does that mean she's potentially a lock for gold now?
    No. Base value is only points on paper. You have to actually execute them and pass the exacting standards of a tech panel to get those points. Mao needs to skate clean to "lock-in" gold. Any flaws and the judges will readily place Julia or Yuna above her. I suspect the judges are most favorable to a clean Lipnitskaia, so if Kim or Asada make mistakes she'll vault ahead of them. My 'worry' podium is a lot like SLC 2002, where Julia gets way overscored in the SP and goes clean in the LP to beat both Kim and Asada (the two heavy favorites).

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