Abbott being ripped and torn to pieces by U.S. Media

blackswanphoto · Feb 6, 2014

Looks like Jeremy Abbott will become the "villain" of these Olympics for the U.S.
There are so many articles out there that are absolutely letting him have it. Can only blame the usfsa for putting someone out there who has a history of competition incompetence. I feel sorry for the official who made that call to put Jeremy in the short program. As one article put it, he embarrassed the country with that skate.

https://www.floridatoday.com/usatoday/article/5254135

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...g-Club-s-Jeremy-Abbott-suffers-horrible-start

Barb · Feb 6, 2014

media and people was saying that is not important their antecedents, that Mirai won her place in olympics because her bronze, now they say that Jeremmy, who won GOLD in nationals should not to be chosen. So typical and predictable :sarcasm:

Ziggy · Feb 6, 2014

Screw Nationals. Make decisions as important as this after looking at the whole season and not just one competition. Brown's international SP (and FS) outings this season were better than Abbott's.

Procrastinator · Feb 6, 2014

It's all hindsight bias at work here. People love to engage in it. Anyway, a new narrative will come along in figure skating, maybe even one of redemption for Abbott, and this will all be water under the bridge to an extent.

blackswanphoto · Feb 6, 2014

Procrastinator said:
It's all hindsight bias at work here. People love to engage in it. Anyway, a new narrative will come along in figure skating, maybe even one of redemption for Abbott, and this will all be water under the bridge to an extent.

You do realize this is Abbott we are speaking about here right?................. Little Polina probably even has more.... :laugh:

semosk8tfan · Feb 6, 2014

I am hopeful that if the Team event remains a part of the Olympics that it will cause the USFS to reevaluate their selection process and also how they cultivate talent. No chance of either happening but I can dream

Ziggy · Feb 6, 2014

Procrastinator said:
It's all hindsight bias at work here. People love to engage in it. Anyway, a new narrative will come along in figure skating, maybe even one of redemption for Abbott, and this will all be water under the bridge to an extent.

Not me.

I've been consistently saying that the Finnish qualification system is the one that makes most sense and this is yet another proof of it.

If you put out inconsistent skaters like Abbott or Parkinson just because they had one very good skate this season, then don't be surprised when they implode.

blackswanphoto · Feb 6, 2014

Bluebonnet said:
Where do you want to put him? You cannot realistically think that USFSA should have stripped Abbott's chance to even skate in the team event. After all he was a National champion. If you put him into LP in team event, it will be even riskier given he bombed in LP a lot more often than SP.

They should have nailed him with the "Caroline Zhang Tariff" at Nationals. Then we would not be in this situation.

Amei · Feb 6, 2014

These articles after a poor skate in the Team event will do. A bad skate isn't just about your poor placement but affects everyone else on the team. And it's not just your placement on the podium but team (Insert country name here).

Figure 8's · Feb 6, 2014

This has been a pattern with Abbott. He has a suburb skate at Nationals winning gold but then bombs when it comes to International competitions. Hopefully he will do better in the men's competition.

Near · Feb 6, 2014

There quite a few people here than haven't exactly been charitable either.

I mean, people blow it at the Olympics all the time. Its the frigging Olympics. Doesn't matter how "clutch" an athlete is there is always the chance that they will implode.

Ziggy · Feb 6, 2014

Bluebonnet said:
Where do you want to put him? You cannot realistically think that USFSA should have stripped Abbott's chance to even skate in the team event. After all he was a National champion.

Why not? If you take into consideration Nationals + two GP events, Brown has a higher average score than Abbott.

Or if you went with the Chinese system of 75% of the best international score + 25% of the best national score, Brown again comes out on top.

Rachmaninoff · Feb 6, 2014

Bluebonnet said:
Where do you want to put him? You cannot realistically think that USFSA should have stripped Abbott's chance to even skate in the team event. After all he was a National champion. If you put him into LP in team event, it will be even riskier given he bombed in LP a lot more often than SP.

Since it's the placements that are counted rather than the scores, the LP would be less risky, since there are only five skaters there. No matter how badly he bombs, the worst he can finish is 5th. Since there are more skaters competing the SP, more ground can be lost there with one bad performance.

So yeah, I'd say it was a bad strategy to use him for the SP in particular.

Dots · Feb 6, 2014

Procrastinator said:
It's all hindsight bias at work here. People love to engage in it. Anyway, a new narrative will come along in figure skating, maybe even one of redemption for Abbott, and this will all be water under the bridge to an extent.

No it wont!

He sunk the US chances of an Olympic medal. He ain't coming back from this one.

karne · Feb 6, 2014

It's not Abbott they should be tearing apart. It's the USFSA. But then, I can only imagine the shrieking and death-to-us-all had the USFSA dared to say, "No Jeremy, you've wasted enough chances, we're not putting you on the Olympic team."

Near · Feb 6, 2014

karne said:
It's not Abbott they should be tearing apart. It's the USFSA. But then, I can only imagine the shrieking and death-to-us-all had the USFSA dared to say, "No Jeremy, you've wasted enough chances, we're not putting you on the Olympic team."

Remember what happened when they didn't put Mirai on the team? She was third. Now imagine if they didn't put the American champion on the team...

Meh, no matter what people will be mad. The USFSA had no winning move.

blackswanphoto · Feb 6, 2014

karne said:
It's not Abbott they should be tearing apart. It's the USFSA. But then, I can only imagine the shrieking and death-to-us-all had the USFSA dared to say, "No Jeremy, you've wasted enough chances, we're not putting you on the Olympic team."

Which is why skaters with Ketu mentality need to be given the "Caroline Zhang Tariff". Get them out of the talent pool early.. Skaters like Nicole Bobek, Alyssa Czisny, Jeremy Abbott, Agnes Zawadzki.. nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. Stop sending them to important competitions. The only skater that should ever be allowed to get away with it is Sasha Cohen.

Manuel Pablo Arnao · Feb 6, 2014

he, like patrick chan, are very unlikeable skaters.

jeremy had a terrible grand prix season and blamed everything and everyone but himself (caught on camera as he came off the ice at one of his grand prixs- yuka looked like she wanted to tell him 'be quiet' youre on national television). he's very talented but full on himself. the way he reacted after he finished his sp and lp at nationals this year was so over the top- dramatic, fake and phony. he interview with the nbc reporter after the long was worse as well. he's phony and everyone but him knows it.

so unlikeable.

Dots · Feb 6, 2014

Remember what happened when they didn't put Mirai on the team? She was third. Now imagine if they didn't put the American champion on the team...

Meh, no matter what people will be mad. The USFSA had no winning move.

It didn't stop them from not sending Mirai.

They could have easily put Jason Brown first and make him the national champion.

Near · Feb 6, 2014

Dots said:
It didn't stop them from not sending Mirai.

They could have easily put Jason Brown first and make him the national champion.

Yes, but the same people that are mad about Abbott being picked probably would have been mad about Abbott not being picked. Its easy to look back and say "well, you should have done that". But the outrage over Abbott being picked happened *after* he bombed at the Olympics. There was no voice calling for him being left off the team after nationals.

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