Originally Posted by blackswanphoto
SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE AMERICAN...well done..Meryl can't take away her dignity and her pride in her country, Canada.
Not my fault Meryl took her man and her glory... I would not doubt that V/M probably wanted to retire earlier but could not stand the thought of losing it all to D/W.
Originally Posted by millie
U.S. Figure Skating denies French report of collusion between U.S. and Russian judges
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I heard it was a French Magazine article. It would keep the US and Russian judge on their toes though to judge fairly...just saying.
I'm Canadian too, and I agree that this sort of mess is harmful to all the teams. Most true figure skating fans appreciate good skaters from all countries anyway, not just our own. And those of us who are not part of the V&M vs. D&W fights on the forums are able to appreciate both teams without having to hate the other one.
Originally Posted by ranjake
The other thing about articles like this that the general public won't understand is that it's harder to fix an event under the new system, anyway. It's not like in the old days when there were only 9 judges whose identities were all known in advance and who could use ordinals to specifically rank people a particular way. It's harder to do that under the COP system with anonymous judging. Still can be messed with, but not as easily.
agreed seems some people just cant get over V/M peak were long over in 2010 Vancouver were they even got inflated marks there
Originally Posted by SimplyLex
they are technically deficient now, she looks labored and none of their skating looks effortless, the lifts are meh
That's one big advantage of the judging being anonymous. How can you finalise such deal when you will never have any certainty that the judges marked as agreed upon?
Originally Posted by Ryan O
1. I think we have to remember something about the reaction of the Canadian media and the Canadian public here. They still have 2002 Salt Lake City in their minds. They therefore are suspicious right away whenever they hear rumours about vote-fixing, even if it may be false. To some extent I can understand that because that was a huge scandal and it got a huge amount of worldwide attention and even led to the awarding of another set of gold medals, changes to the judging system, etc. Any rumours about it happening again will therefore be covered by the press and cause angry reactions from Canadians online, etc. That makes sense from that perspective.
2. But yes, the problem is that for those reporters or members of the public who only tune in to figure skating every four years and know very little about the competitions of the last few years, the COP system, or the results that D&W vs. V&M have received, they are not necessarily going to be accurate in what they are talking about. Casual viewers probably have V&M's 2010 skate at the Olympics in their minds and may not be aware that D&W have won more competitions than V&M over the past few seasons. They may be unaware that D&W are considered the ones with more momentum in 2014, and that they don't have to cheat to win if they skate well.