Ladies Qualifying Groups/Start Orders

SkateCynic · Mar 23, 2004

Qualifying Group A:

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Fumie SUGURI JPN
2 Viktoria VOLCHKOVA RUS
3 Michelle KWAN USA
4 Keren SHUA HAIM ISR
5 Lucie KRAUSOVA CZE

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Shizuka ARAKAWA JPN
7 Irina SLUTSKAYA RUS
8 Susanna POYKIO FIN
9 Hristina VASSILEVA BUL
10 Zuzana BABIAKOVA SVK

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Anne Sophie CALVEZ FRA
12 Sara FALOTICO BEL
13 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
14 Karen VENHUIZEN NED
15 Julia LAUTOWA AUT

Warm-Up Group 4
16 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR
17 Miriam MANZANO AUS
18 Mojca KOPAC SLO
19 Dan FANG CHN
20 Anna BERNAUER LUX
21 Miki ANDO JPN

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Qualifying Group B:

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Gintare VOSTRECOVAITE LTU
2 Sarah MEIER SUI
3 Jenna McCORKELL GBR
4 Jennifer ROBINSON CAN
5 Ksenija JASTSENSKI SCG

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS
7 Idora HEGEL CRO
8 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
9 Jennifer KIRK USA
10 Diane CHEN TPE

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Michelle CANTU MEX
12 Daria TIMOSHENKO AZE
13 Annette DYTRT GER
14 Olga VASSILJEVA EST
15 Jenna-Anne BUYS RSA

Warm-Up Group 4
16 Nina BATES BIH
17 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
18 Elena LIASHENKO UKR
19 Sasha COHEN USA
20 Valentina MARCHEI ITA
21 Ji-Eun CHOI

.....Thoughts?

yelyoh · Mar 23, 2004

Sasha got lucky this year. Maybe she'll trust the Skating Gods.
Michelle and Fumie should make SP final warm-up despite skating early. It'll be interesting in how they are marked though. Jenny K has a good shot at final warm-up group also. Curious as to how Irina will hold up. Will she be held up?

Wow just noticed Ando skates last. Hmmm. How will that upset the apple cart? I am really looking forward to this one. So much talent; so few medals.

Evdokia · Mar 23, 2004

yelyoh said:
Curious as to how Irina will hold up. Will she be held up?

How nice to speculate if Irina will be held up, before she even started to skate! :rolleye:

Mafke · Mar 23, 2004

Have I ever mentioned how stupid counting the qualifying round is?

Have I ever mentioned how stupid _NOT EVEN SEEDING?!?!?!?!?_ the skaters in the qualifying round is?

Have I ever mentioned how much I hate the interim judging system?

If I weren't rooting for Kwan, I probably wouldn't even be watching any of this years WC because the ISU is bound and determined to suck any enjoyment I get out of watching skating out of the sport with idiotic judging and competition structures.

Now that _that's_ off my chest, good luck to all the competitiors.

I'm surprised Pavuk isn't in this competition. Is she injured? didn't Hungary qualify 2 skaters or did Sebestyen crash and burn last year?

berthes ghost · Mar 23, 2004

B.

Crashed, burned and went home in 14th place.

mzheng · Mar 23, 2004

I'm surprised that all 3 Japanese ladies in ONE group.

Seems the QA is a hard group than QB.

Kateri · Mar 23, 2004

berthes ghost said:
B.

Crashed, burned and went home in 14th place.

ah - shame! Pavuk was a firecracker at Europeans!
Was looking forward to seeing her... oh well.

k.

Doggygirl · Mar 23, 2004

Silly Q regarding the schedule...

Anyone know why in men's qualifying the dance compulsaries the "B" group went first, but in the ladies qualifying the "A" group goes first?? Just seems strange.

I would think barring a major disaster, an early skate won't hurt MK. I wonder how the skate order might affect Fumie.

Just curious..

DG

Peaches1972 · Mar 23, 2004

Mafke, I agree.

Thoughts:

Group "A" is pack with talented skaters. That group could be a World Championships in itself.

show 42 · Mar 23, 2004

Mafke.............Totally agree and by the way, welcome to GS.

Michelle should do okay, despite the early draw..........she'll get it over with and then be able to concentrate on the short. I'd be very surprised if she didn't make the final flight for the short.....42

berthes ghost · Mar 23, 2004

ah - shame! Pavuk was a firecracker at Europeans!

ITA

Was looking forward to seeing her... oh well.

Well, I did see her again at Junior worlds and she was no where near as good as she was at Euros, so be glad that you saw her when she was "on".

shine · Mar 23, 2004

Wheeee I love Joannie's group. Hope she doesn't let this opportunity slip through her fingers!!!

Mafke · Mar 23, 2004

Kateri said:
ah - shame! Pavuk was a firecracker at Europeans!
Was looking forward to seeing her... oh well.

k.

I agree that Pavuk was fun at Europeans but there's not much yet besides the jumps.

Mathman · Mar 23, 2004

Hi Mafke, welcome to the forum! Well, at least this will be the last we'll see of the Interim system.

About the CoP and being held up, Sasha Cohen had this interesting comment after Skate America (the first GP event where the CoP was used, quoted in Spotlight on Skating magazine): "With the 6.0 system, I knew what was going on, when the judges were holding me up. Now (under CoP)... I have no clue."

Michelle should have no problem with the early skate. It's not like the judges are going to overlook her or forget that she was out there. She'll lay down her stuff and catch an early nap. Fumie should be OK, too.

I think Ando got the worst draw. Here she is at her first Worlds, almost her first major International seniors competition, and she has to wait through the whole event, nerves building with each skater's performance. I hope she goes into it with an attitude of, I've got nothing to lose, here's my quad, what do y'all think of that!

Mathman

PS. Sebestien was super at Europeans. In the second group she could provide the surprise that everyone's been waiting for.

cianni · Mar 23, 2004

cianni

Seems the Skating Gods gave Sasha a gift this yr. I doubt she will not win her QR. Cupcake is her only comp. and she cant beat a clean Cohen. So I expect Sasha to be a real contender with an advantage. I hope she makes the most of it.How did Irina get in Group A and why. I was surprised at that and boy is that Group A stacked. Sure wish they would find a way to be more fair and balanced in the groups. Well good luck to all the skaters.

swannanoa54 · Mar 23, 2004

SPOILER: The results are on this

link but you have to click on "results" to see them.
Otherwise, I thought everyone would be interested in knowing which group skates first. And it isn't Kwan's group.

http://www.worlds2004.de/shared/data/results/

Actually, looks like Group B is skating first. Then Group A in the ladies QR.

Lucy25 · Mar 23, 2004

You are correct. Group B is skating first. I guess that is something positive for Group A. The groups are incredibliy unfair this year. Irina and a couple other skaters were transfered into Group A after a skater withdrew a couple of days ago. That one withdrawl totally shifted the groups.

show 42 · Mar 23, 2004

Wow, I'll say..........that is a break for Irina, Michelle, and Fumie....42

Doggygirl · Mar 23, 2004

Group A/B

The ISU site had it reversed this morning, but now they are showing Group B first on their schedule too.

DG

soogar · Mar 23, 2004

How are they deciding the order the groups skate in? IE B skates first, then A. Is it a flip a coin thing ? I think this kind of suck with placements and all. When they go to Code of points, will they just multiply the points a skater earns by the value of the event ie qr, sp and lp and then sum up points and skater with the highest points wins? That seems fairer than ordinals esp if one group is tougher than another.

Ladies Qualifying Groups/Start Orders

SkateCynic

yelyoh

Evdokia

Mafke

berthes ghost

mzheng

Kateri

Doggygirl

Peaches1972

show 42

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berthes ghost

shine

Mafke

Mathman

cianni

swannanoa54

Lucy25

show 42

Arm Chair Skate Fan

Doggygirl

soogar

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