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    It would be trolling except it was obvious from just watching on TV how ungracious the Russian audience was to non-Russian skaters and how much they seemed to want the non-Russians to fall.

    Anyway, I wonder if there is a cultural explanation.

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    wootie, I'm not Russian, so don't put to much credence in what I say.

    I think it has more to do with what kinds of fans were there than the fact that they were Russian. Some other posters mentioned that the tickets mostly got sold to locals - i.e. the general public/non-skating fans. I'd imagine that if you were to seat the general U.S. public or general Chinese public, etc., at a skating event you might get similar behaviors. When I watch skating with my family and friends, their first and only instinct is to cheer for the "home team" and sometimes against the "others". I thought the crowds at this year's Rostelecom Cup, who probably hardcore skating fans, were fine.

    I hope none of our Russian forum members feel that questions regarding certain officials/crowds/results are meant to target Russians in general!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wootie View Post
    It would be trolling except it was obvious from just watching on TV how ungracious the Russian audience was to non-Russian skaters and how much they seemed to want the non-Russians to fall.

    Anyway, I wonder if there is a cultural explanation.
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    I've heard that they chanted even in gala.. what a bunch of douches.
    Time this hate thread was closed (obviously deliberately designed to invite equally unsavory comments) and you two were banned. Your posts throughout the last few days have been extremely offensive and prejudiced. I'm British and at the London Olympics a couple of years ago (which I attended), the British crowds were just as patriotic and partisan. All home crowds are, and rightfully so. People are entitled to be patriotic and to cheer on their own competitors. The Russian crowds were no different to any other.

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    Totally agree with you

    Did you watch the Gala exhibition tonight?
    The Russian crowd was shouting 'RO-SSSSI-AAA' even during the other skaters' gala performances, not the competition.
    Russia should not hold any major sports events ever again until the Earth destroys. The audience were the worst ever.


    Quote Originally Posted by wootie View Post
    I know the Russian skaters were skating on home ice and, obviously, Russians want their skaters to succeed. However, by the Ladies free skate, it became really obvious to me that the crowd had gone beyond supporting the Russian skaters and started revealing themselves to be tacky and graceless, especially in light of the fact that they got pretty much everything they wanted despite the fact that the results were dubious in both the ladies and ice dance events. I love how they didn't bother to clap or pay attention during Ashley Wagner's free skate because they only cared to see if Adelina would win the gold medal (of course she would). I also noticed that when Yu-na was waving and bowing to the audience after her free skate that almost none of the Russians were clapping. Only the foreigners bothered to show some respect and applaud. It was also really bad manners to start chanting "Ru-sy-a!" while Yu-na was graciously waiting for her scores in the kiss and cry area. Everyone should have already known the judges handed the gold to Adelina. At least show some respect to the skater whose scores haven't even come up yet.

    Sigh. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else noticed this. What do you guys think? Look, I know the support will obviously be slanted in favor of the home team. But the level of fairness and tact displayed by the audience was soooo different in Vancouver and most of the other host Olympic cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
    Time this hate thread was closed (obviously deliberately designed to invite equally unsavory comments) and you two were banned. Your posts throughout the last few days have been extremely offensive and prejudiced. I'm British and at the London Olympics a couple of years ago (which I attended), the British crowds were just as patriotic and partisan. All home crowds are, and rightfully so. People are entitled to be patriotic and to cheer on their own competitors. The Russian crowds were no different to any other.
    Quote Originally Posted by longlivethequeen View Post
    Did you watch the Gala exhibition tonight?
    The Russian crowd was shouting 'RO-SSSSI-AAA' even during the other skaters' gala performances, not the competition.
    Russia should not hold any major sports events ever again until the Earth destroys. The audience were the worst ever.
    Point proved. Another multi-pseud Yunabot opens up yet another account to make a hateful comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by wootie View Post
    I also noticed that when Yu-na was waving and bowing to the audience after her free skate that almost none of the Russians were clapping. Only the foreigners bothered to show some respect and applaud. It was also really bad manners to start chanting "Ru-sy-a!" while Yu-na was graciously waiting for her scores in the kiss and cry area.
    agreed; it's great that countries have their chants and whatnot to cheer on their athletes when it's their turn, but to do it when other countries' athletes are on the ice or getting their scores is SO RUDE and utterly classless. it's really no different than booing another skater. cheer and make noise and chant for your athletes, fine, great. You can do that without being disrespectful to the other skaters. i really don't like Gracie Gold's skating at all, but the people laughing and cheering when she fell was just over the top nasty.

    But the level of fairness and tact displayed by the audience was soooo different in Vancouver and most of the other host Olympic cities.
    this, exactly.

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    It's hard to tell by only watching television, but my impression of the audience is very, very positive. I was in Vancouver in 2010 and I think the crowd was much more indifferent to the guest athletes and other non-Canadian fans than the Russians are to non-Russians. Russia is a very open culture where hospitality and natural curiosity to others is part of their very soul. It's North Americans who claim to be hospitable and open, but in reality are rather ignorant and indifferent.

    If you look for hostility and disrespect I heard that the soccer World Cup in Korea was by far the worst. So just wait for four more years and we will see....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CezarMart View Post
    It's North Americans who claim to be hospitable and open, but in reality are rather ignorant and indifferent.
    hmm. criticising one specific audience for specific incidents of seemingly-rude behaviour vs. making sweeping generalisations about an entire two countries' worth of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinganca View Post
    hmm. criticising one specific audience for specific incidents of seemingly-rude behaviour vs. making sweeping generalisations about an entire two countries' worth of people.
    By calling it "indifferent" and "ignorant" I meant everybody is sticking to his own business and doesn't care much about other cultures. It doesn't have to a bad thing, though. Just the way it is and it seems to be working. Completely opposite to Eastern European cultures.
    And if you are accusing me of rude generalizations then what is this entire thread if not exactly that! I am only rebuking the thread author's point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CezarMart View Post
    It's hard to tell by only watching television, but my impression of the audience is very, very positive. I was in Vancouver in 2010 and I think the crowd was much more indifferent to the guest athletes and other non-Canadian fans than the Russians are to non-Russians. Russia is a very open culture where hospitality and natural curiosity to others is part of their very soul. It's North Americans who claim to be hospitable and open, but in reality are rather ignorant and indifferent.

    If you look for hostility and disrespect I heard that the soccer World Cup in Korea was by far the worst. So just wait for four more years and we will see....
    Russian home crowds, American home crowds, British home crowds, Canadian home crowds, any home crowd - they are all the same. No difference whatsoever. And they all have the right to be patriotic.

    Any campaign will only succeed if it is backed up by reasoned argument. What astonishes me is that these Yunabots are not prepared to confine the discussion to the conspiracy thread and present hard evidence of corruption to back up what they are saying (they have found none). Instead, they open up multi-pseuds and open up multiple threads on the same topic to try and swamp the board. However, the most repulsive element of their activities are hate threads like this. They do not seem to realise that their xenophobic, racist, prejudiced, bigoted, and offensive remarks only serve to damage their cause, rather than promote it. Their comments show them up to be what they really are - extremists who will go to any lengths to get what they want right down to xenophobic abuse

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    Quote Originally Posted by longlivethequeen View Post
    Did you watch the Gala exhibition tonight?
    The Russian crowd was shouting 'RO-SSSSI-AAA' even during the other skaters' gala performances, not the competition.
    Russia should not hold any major sports events ever again until the Earth destroys. The audience were the worst ever.
    Do you speak/understand Russian?

    The crowd was yelling, "Cпасибо!" -- which means THANK YOU -- according to what I read in another post.

    ETA, this post was what I had read earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Do you speak/understand Russian?

    I read in another post that the crowd was yelling, "Cпасибо!" -- which means THANK YOU!
    You think that cancels out shouting "Rus..." during other skaters' gala performances..

    To each own, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Do you speak/understand Russian?

    I read in another post that the crowd was yelling, "Cпасибо!" -- which means THANK YOU!
    I speak Russian and longlivethequeen is correct: they were yelling “Russia”, even during Gala!
    Really embarrassing during the whole Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artistry View Post
    I speak Russian and longlivethequeen is correct: they were yelling “Russia”, even during Gala!
    Really embarrassing during the whole Olympics.
    К сожалению.

    ETA, not arguing with you, but this post from the Exhibitions thread was what I had read earlier -- thus what I had said in my previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by tikse View Post
    You missed it. They shouted "Spasibo!" which means "Thank you" in English.

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