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    Obscure Figure Skating Videos

    I've been searching thru videos from the 80's and 90's WC's and watching classic/obscure performances that did not result in a trip to the podium or even close in some cases. That doesn't mean there not fun and full of great moments! Please post some fun ones yourself and discuss. For bonus points try to think of a "magic word" that sums it up.

    I have chosen Tamara Téglássy of Hungary and her 11th place finish in Halifax Canada in the 1990 WC's.

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    Tamara Téglássy (born 29 September 1968 in Debrecen, Hungary) is a former Hungarian figure skater. She is the 1984-1991 Hungarian Champion and was a member of the Budapest Spartacus Sport Club

    Best finish 11th at WC's and 19th at '88 Olympics

    http://youtu.be/MQn5eDjazf0

    MAGIC WORD: Trotting
    Favorite Moment: I think it's a 3t at (30 second mark) sync'd up perfect with a whimsical slide whistle/Vaudeville music in the beginning.

    Obscure Meter : 8 out of 10

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    That's awesome! I LOVE it when someone matches the moves to the music perfectly - like Ryan Bradley, Jason Brown etc. That is SO difficult but makes the performance SO much better!

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    I just saw that this uploader seems to have lots of older vids, for anyone who wants to browse:

    http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrny...wv-xK5A/videos

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    Thank you LRK. I find these videos fascinating and its fun to see how good some of these lesser known skaters actually were(at least to me). I initially started looking for epic 4th place finishes but found so many great obscure skates I couldn't resist doing this thread first.

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    Unsure how obscure she is, but a lot of folks have forgotten about the 1990 world bronze medalist, one Holly Cook: http://youtu.be/tdOydZDArMg

    Even I forgot about her until I read up the list of world medalists on Wikipedia and I still can't remember her! If you look later in the clip, turns out Kristi Yamaguchi was the one on the bubble and she looked absolutely ****ed she was just off the podium.

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    That music at 1:25 mark..wow. I would double my 3s based on music distraction factor alone. Is that Christine Sullivan's(night court) hair style. I actually liked this program. Thanks for sharing. Love these gems.

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    One of my favorite 90's ladies' short programs belong to Tonia Kwiatkowski at worlds. Very nice music and choreography. Even with the step out in the combo jump, it was still just beautiful.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJCFU39ueU

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    That 3F was What a graceful skate and she clearly is powerful but in complete control with gracefulness being the main theme. Thank you for sharing. Seeing her dad cry was very emotional and I admit I shed a tear too. Thanks for sharing and keep em coming!!

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    http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=Gcj3fZeZUXs


    Robert Wagenhoffer FS 1982 Worlds. He placed sixth.


    Robert later became World Pro champion


    Gary Beacon 1984 LP. I could only find his Canadians video, but he was at Worlds in Ottawa and skated wonderfully, placing tenth.

    http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_...?v=fzCTd2QFo1k
    Last edited by dorispulaski; 03-10-2014 at 07:05 PM.

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    ^ thank you Doris!! Robert was very graceful and fun to watch !!

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    Today I went to the 1987 WC in Cincinatti Ohio searching out footage. While a bronze medal is not so obscure it appears Caryn's was somewhat out of the blue.

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    Caryn Kadavy (born December 9, 1967 in Erie, Pennsylvania), is an American figure skater. She is the 1987 World bronze medalist and a four-time U.S. national medalist

    Withdrew from '88 Olympics after SP(6th) due to flu.
    This is her best worlds finish 3rd
    1985 Skate Canada and Prize of Moscow News gold medalist
    Four year singles career
    Skated professionally until at least 2010

    Magic Word: Memorable

    http://youtu.be/ylUfPI2dfZc

    Edit: I'm site many of you have heard of her but this is way before my time so I'm just research skaters I don't know about. Feel free to judge me.

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    I love these videos from the 80s and early 90s.
    I notice that the women seemed to choose faster music and skate with more "attack" back then. When did they all become such "delicate" princesses? Is it that it's hard to skate fast when you have to do that many more triples and combos? Is skating like Caryn Cadavy or Holly Cook considered "juniorish?" Or is it just a trend? I wish it would pass if it is.

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    OK, I am actually posting a couple of skater performances from the Olympics - but they have competed at Worlds.

    1) Agnes Gosselin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agn%C3%A8s_Gosselin)
    6 time French National Champion (before Surya Bonaly)
    2 time Olympian (18th in 1984, 16th in 1988)
    This is her short program in Calgary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsGQPOaq8bE
    Magic Word: Really?? Where to start? The music and choreography is horrible. Her jumps don't have much height. In her combination spin, she kept traveling and the camera had to keep moving to keep her in frame. And she fell on footwork!!! And there is the priceless commentary of Dick Button
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsGQPOaq8bE

    2) Vanessa Giunchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Giunchi)
    2001 Italian National Champion
    20th in 2002 Olympics
    Competed at 3 Europeans, 2 Worlds
    Magic Words: Determined, passionate, headband
    Vanessa Giunchi beat Silvia Fontana at the 2001 Italian Nationals, but Silvia finished ahead of her at Euros (7th, 10th) and Silvia was sent to Worlds. Luckily, Silvia finished 10th at 2001 Worlds and Italy could send 2 skaters to Olympics. I am posting two of her performances: 2001 Euros (Schindler's List) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ju80rZYwXE and 2002 Olympics (Bolero) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3n7FKYwh1E. So we see different interpretations of two of this years most memorable performances....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodlepal View Post
    I notice that the women seemed to choose faster music and skate with more "attack" back then. When did they all become such "delicate" princesses? Is it that it's hard to skate fast when you have to do that many more triples and combos?
    I think that's the main reason.

    Reliance on triple jumps probably also self-selected for smaller body types than figures-era skating.

    Is skating like Caryn Cadavy or Holly Cook considered "juniorish?" Or is it just a trend? I wish it would pass if it is.
    "like" Caryn Kadavy or Holly Cook in what sense? I don't think of their skating as being very similar to each other. Because I think of Kadavy as being much more polished, with more coherent choreography.

    Speed and attack specifically?

    No, I don't think that is considered juniorish.

    Athletically talented skaters may rise to the top at young ages, straight out of juniors, on the strength of power/attack and triple jumps, and then if they stick around become more polished as they mature. So in that sense, reliance on athletic ability more than refined skills might be associated with younger skaters.

    But a lot of younger junior skaters who are not ready to compete with seniors in their early teens (and may or may not ever get there) don't have as much power because they don't have the muscle mass and/or highest-level stroking skill yet.

    The best seniors have both power and refinement. They may be just as fast or faster as when they were juniors, but not look like they're attacking as much or working as hard because they achieve their speed more from technique.

    Here are two freeskates by the same skater at 17 and 23 years old, which both happened to earn fourth place at post-Olympic Worlds. She was always known for her speed, but at the older age seems to harness it better. Does that come across as less attack?

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    Diana Poth - 1999 Worlds. Crackling!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vnTejJhGlI

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