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Thread: Plushenko withdraws/retires - at least 1/4 crowd retreats

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    Quote Originally Posted by coppertop1 View Post
    Wow. I don't think anyone saw this coming. So disappointing for the Russians and for Plushenko. I don't think he would have withdrawn unless it was serious. This is why you can never count your chickens (or in this case medals) before they hatch at the Olympics. Anything can happen. You can see the energy just get drained. I would not have wanted to skate in complete silence. They did come back alive as the evening picked up.
    Seriously? It was pretty obvious that his body didn't have that many programs left in it, frankly he did well to be able to complete the team event.

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    Sad! But if they only came to see Plushenko then they probably would have left after his skate had he skated anyways. So they probably only left 5 minutes earlier than they would have otherwise. Too bad!

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    Wow even Lysacek posted a picture of how the audience left...lol

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    I can't say I was surprised. Why didn't they put Maxim Kovtun in the SP? Isn't this the type of situation why federations name alternates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memelah711 View Post
    I can't say I was surprised. Why didn't they put Maxim Kovtun in the SP? Isn't this the type of situation why federations name alternates?
    maybe they did, but unless he's all dressed up doing warm-up behind the side board along with the group, Plushy pulling out 2 seconds before the group started competing wouldn't exactly give him time to fill in for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memelah711 View Post
    I can't say I was surprised. Why didn't they put Maxim Kovtun in the SP? Isn't this the type of situation why federations name alternates?
    Quote Originally Posted by qazwsx View Post
    maybe they did, but unless he's all dressed up doing warm-up behind the side board along with the group, Plushy pulling out 2 seconds before the group started competing wouldn't exactly give him time to fill in for him.
    The deadline for making a replacement had passed DAYS ago, per ISU Communication No. 1844.
    For entries related to individual Figure Skating events (Pair Skating, Men, Ice Dance, Ladies) it is possible to make athletes replacements only up to and during the Team Leaders meeting for the Figure Skating (individual) events scheduled for 10.00 a.m. on February 10th, 2014, for the same circumstances as mentioned above (injury and/or sickness).

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    I knew Plushenko's body wasn't completely healthy, but I didn't see him withdrawing at the event. Not the way he wanted to go out. They couldn't call Kovtun, the deadline to call an alternate had passed.

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    I didn't realize there was a deadline for the alternates. Thanks for the info

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    It reminded me what Michelle Kwan did, was it in Torino? she made sure that she pulled out early enough to allow the alternate to fill in for her, what a classy act, and what a contrast to the situation here..I doubt Plushy had any second thought about Kovtun by withdrawing at the last second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qazwsx View Post
    It reminded me what Michelle Kwan did, was it in Torino? she made sure that she pulled out early enough to allow the alternate to fill in for her, what a classy act, and what a contrast to the situation here..I doubt Plushy had any second thought about Kovtun by withdrawing at the last second.
    I can definitely see why people might be ticked for Kovtun.

    Lord knows I'm no Plushy fan, but in fairness to the guy, he might have been under some pressure to compete in the individual men's event for exactly this reason. He draws an audience in Russia.

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    Would they have even been able to sub for Plushenko since he did the team event. The Russians only had one male spot, since Plushenko already competed it seems he was locked into the individual as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachmaninoff View Post
    I can definitely see why people might be ticked for Kovtun.

    Lord knows I'm no Plushy fan, but in fairness to the guy, he might have been under some pressure to compete in the individual men's event for exactly this reason. He draws an audience in Russia.
    I agree. Yeah, I sometimes have issues with Plushenko's attitude, but I doubt he did this as an attempt to block Kovtun. The deadline was the day after the team event and Plushenko probably thought he was healthy enough to compete at that point. Even if he withdrew before the men's there wouldn't have been time. I don't think it's fair to say he did this to deliberately block Kovtun, especially considering he originally wanted to only do the team and then was told under the rules he couldn't do that. It's just really bad luck. It goes to show like with anything else, don't but all your eggs in one basket, which is what the Russian Skating Federation with Plushenko, go with the established legend, instead of chancing a newcomber. Was that a mistake? Maybe. It didn't hurt them in the team event. It sucks for Kovtun, but it also sucked for Plushenko and the Russians.

    The women's event is one of the last events at the Olympics, so the window of opportunity for an alternate to be called is much larger.

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    Plushenko pulled a Shaun White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coppertop1 View Post
    Wow. I don't think anyone saw this coming.
    On the contrary, I think lots of people saw it coming. In fact, I was surprised when last night, he was still listed to skate. I had expected him to withdraw pretty much right after the team event. But I guess because of him initially saying he would only do team and then being told he had to do both unless he was seriously injured, he pushed forward for an extra couple of days. Still, it was completely expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinA View Post
    Just wow. People go to the Olympics to see one skater and then leave?
    For them probably it's like you went to see Beyonce to a concert, but Beyonce suddenly cancels when you are there and you have to sit there to listen to a bunch of singers you have never heard of for another hour and a half. Plush is a superstar in Russia, but can't say the same thing for the sport itself.

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