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    Say what you want about Plush. It is evident he loves his country. It is unlikely he did this deliberately to hurt anyone, especially Kovtun. It was Plush's last fight. Regardless of intentions though, it did hurt Kovtun, but to be realistic, Kovtun might not have skated well nor would he have sold as many tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPack View Post
    Say what you want about Plush. It is evident he loves his country. It is unlikely he did this deliberately to hurt anyone, especially Kovtun. It was Plush's last fight. Regardless of intentions though, it did hurt Kovtun, but to be realistic, Kovtun might not have skated well nor would he have sold as many tickets.
    This is why I don't think he chickened out. He wouldn't disappoint his fans in his home country like that. He was clearly upset that he couldn't skate. It's too bad for Kovtun but it wasn't intentional, just bad luck. The Russian federation felt he could bring home a medal and was a better shot than Kovtun.

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    Who really knows? After his own early comments about only wanting/planning to skate Team, his withdrawal seems suspect. His interviews appear genuine but that's unsurprising, after all he is a natural showman.

    I'm just glad that the world of figure skating can move on without the cloud of Plushy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waxel View Post
    Who really knows? After his own early comments about only wanting/planning to skate Team, his withdrawal seems suspect. His interviews appear genuine but that's unsurprising, after all he is a natural showman.

    I'm just glad that the world of figure skating can move on without the cloud of Plushy.
    I thought he was just being patriotic. But once he was in the game, given his superb competitive history and nature, I don't think he would have given up in front of his country, his own family without good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    No plushenko, no one to support
    so I understand why many left the arena after her pulled out
    Well I guess that's what so many here find disheartening: They didn't feel like enjoying the others and cheer for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPack View Post
    Say what you want about Plush. It is evident he loves his country. It is unlikely he did this deliberately to hurt anyone, especially Kovtun. It was Plush's last fight. Regardless of intentions though, it did hurt Kovtun, but to be realistic, Kovtun might not have skated well nor would he have sold as many tickets.
    I'm not implying he already knew he would retire before the deadline for Kovtun to replace him. But Plushenko certainly wouldn't find even the possibility that another Russian man would get attention from the Russian audience appealing. Especially given the aggressive bickering that went on between the 2.
    Using this exposure to have an emotional exit where all his die-hard fans - and most of the rest - would just say "oooh, poor Zhenya!" was worth infinitely more to him than allowing Russia to have a man in this event. That's going to be a youtube video his fans will cherish.
    Michelle Kwan could also have said "let me wait until the very day of the event before I make my final decision", but she did retire in time for Emily Hughes to replace her.

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    But if he would have done that you all have bickering here that he planned that. If you "FS FANS" woudn't have been so negative about his situation from beginning perhaps he would have been more easy on it. So he wanted to give everything he have and he did it.

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    Well, obviously as a spectator, I have no idea about what went on the scenes.

    It is clear that Plush does love Russia with all his heart. I'm not a big Plush fan. I'm guilty of having mocked him and Mishin over the years. Is he full of hubris? I'd say yes. But I don't think he would disgrace his country by giving no Russian man to skate in Sochi until his body truly failed him. I think he would have given Russia his best shot and I also think he would have gladly have someone else represent his country until he was absolutely sure he wasn't competitive.

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    he has announced 2 months ago that he only want to compete at the Team event.
    Than it was a long fight for him behind the scenes for HIS OWN Team Gold medal, to be able to be a part of the Team which would go to Russia without him as well.
    It was his only possible way to get another gold in this sport and he was ready to kill Kovtun, Menshov or anybody like he did last year when he wnt to his 7th European Champion title in front of Gachinski. Gachinski was falling completely apart after this silver medal.

    I think that leaving the competitive sport will boost Russian Men field.
    As one of the previous post mentioned that: the cloud moved on, and they can feel the reason to get up early morning going to a training session.

    My compliment goes to him because he put himself together for the team competition, but for HIMSELF.

    An important chapter of a great talent and a very selfish, many times unsportif, arrogant competitor has been closed.
    Amen

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    Twitter has a picture of a press conference or informal interview Plush is giving to a bunch of reporters.

    Where can one find the video for that? If anyone knows, would you post a link please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artistry View Post
    Twitter has a picture of a press conference or informal interview Plush is giving to a bunch of reporters.

    Where can one find the video for that? If anyone knows, would you post a link please?
    thanks brah, waiting x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdeal View Post
    he has announced 2 months ago that he only want to compete at the Team event.
    Than it was a long fight for him behind the scenes for HIS OWN Team Gold medal, to be able to be a part of the Team which would go to Russia without him as well.
    It was his only possible way to get another gold in this sport and he was ready to kill Kovtun, Menshov or anybody like he did last year when he wnt to his 7th European Champion title in front of Gachinski. Gachinski was falling completely apart after this silver medal.

    I think that leaving the competitive sport will boost Russian Men field.
    As one of the previous post mentioned that: the cloud moved on, and they can feel the reason to get up early morning going to a training session.

    My compliment goes to him because he put himself together for the team competition, but for HIMSELF.

    An important chapter of a great talent and a very selfish, many times unsportif, arrogant competitor has been closed.
    Amen


    Such a pity that nasty posts won't go to an end after his retreat. I would have said also Amen to that.

    Have you seen all the videos of him cheering for the team? Didn't he give it all what it takes for russain team to take the gold? How pleased was to be there with all of his team?

    Sometimes people cannot see further than their own prejudice. That give sadly more information about them than about the skaters....

    Would have retreat and let Kovtun in his place you all would cry foul (like you cryed over and over in the last month), has he not you all cry selfish Plushenko. Man he cannot win in your eyes.

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    Plush opened the team event with a great sp and all his team got a boost, he was screaming to all skaters from his seat, V/T said that watching him gave them a reason to be clean so his effort won't be in vain, he and Trankov were shouting to lipnitskaya middle way of her program like the best fan boys, he prompted audience to cheer louder for Julia, just with a hand move he had audience in his palm, they needed a skater of Plushenko status in Russian team event, audience too, this is something Kovtun couldn't do, people like Plush, Joub, Dai are needed and with this attitude fs will end up a small miserable snobbish sport. I see Hanyu and Jason though being the next darlings, cause they make audience feel relevant.

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    I don't understand why people would snark about the audience leaving. How is it any different to when the Yuna fans all swarm an arena for her, and then leave right after?

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    I don't think it is different, it is equally as horrible, no matter who you're leaving for. But this is the Olympics, not some little b-event, where you have one star and the rest is an afterthought. Loads of great skaters to come, who would've bested Plushenko, either way. These fans are fans of a person and not a sport, which is sad.

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    The ones who would have bested Plushenko ' score yesterday were at group 4, audience was there, with the exception of 5-6 skaters it was a subpar competition, but most audience was there until 4 group, I don't know why it is not obvious from vids?

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