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Thread: Lipnitskaya, Asada, and Kim: Who is most likely to get the gold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    4 consecutive nationals I think Gracie can do
    I don't see anyone challenging her nationally, by then she will be a World medalist also

    although post 2018 we might see the likes of Karen Chen, Polina E., Amber etc move up into the ranks
    Yikes! I'm agreeing with something sky_fly20 says! Certainly Gracie could get four consecutive titles. I think she could even get a world medal this year. And certainly by 2018, there will be other, younger skaters who will challenge her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    you mean 4 consecutive titles Kwan has never won ?
    I also think she can equal/surpass Kwan's achievements in the future
    Michelle Kwan (Pell ) won 8 consecutive U.S. titles and 9 overall. The last (and only other) person to win 9 U.S. titles (6 consecutive) was Maribel Vinson (Owen) in the 1930s. Michelle won five world championships. The last to do that (of any nationality) was Carol Heiss (Jenkins) in the 1950s.

    Well, go Gracie. But please...

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    It's actually kind of interesting to imagine Gold's potential as a world champion though. I mean if a whole bunch of people retire...Kim, Asada, Kostner, Suzuki.. Gracie would be right up there in the gold medal hunt, along with Yulia and Adelina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Michelle Kwan (Pell ) won 8 consecutive U.S. titles and 9 overall. The last (and only other) person to win 9 U.S. titles (6 consecutive) was Maribel Vinson (Owen) in the 1930s. Michelle won five world championships. The last to do that (of any nationality) was Carol Heiss (Jenkins) in the 1950s.
    I love Gracie and I can see her becoming consecutive US Champion perhaps, and maybe a World Champion in a near future, but I agree, let's not get ahead of ourselves. I don't see anyone, of any nationality, beating Michelle's five world championship records any time soon in the future. I mean, that record is combination of what Yuna, Mao, and Caro have together, and they were three most dominant skaters in the last decade and couldn't go anywhere near Michelle's record on that. (Let's not talk about Olympics.)

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    OMG, WHY IS NOBODY THINKING IT'LL BE GRACIE GOLD! SHE'S SO BLONDE! SO MUCH BLONDER THAN JULIA/MAO/YU NA! HER BLONDE HOLLYWOOD-ESQUE LOOKS WILL GET HER 160+ POINTS! I AM SURE OF IT. (OH, AND SHE'LL BE DOING SO MANY MOVIES AFTERWARDS BECAUSE OF HER BLONDE, HOLLYWOOD LOOKS, BTW.) DID I MENTION HOW BEAUTIFULLY BLONDE SHE IS?

    I think it'll be Kim, but Julia has a shot on Russian ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    I can sense your sarcasm but I do believe Gold has the potential to dominate U.S ladies skating until 2022 potentially, especialy as the U.S doesnt even have much depth anymore so it is easier to do than before
    Eight years ago no one had heard of Gracie Gold. In 2022 the U.S. champion will be someone that we have never heard of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    I can sense your sarcasm but I do believe Gold has the potential to dominate U.S ladies skating until 2022 potentially, especialy as the U.S doesnt even have much depth anymore so it is easier to do than before. Whether she fulfills that potential or not, is anyones guess. On the World stage she probably wont ever reach the achievements of someone like Kwan (but then again Kwan didnt face a horde of Asian powerhouses or half as deep a field as Gold is and will continue to have to), but she could put the U.S back on the map again, in a bigger way than say Wagner will ever be able to.
    agreed, Gracie is the most complete skater post 2014, she has everything to become a multiple World Champion
    and she can indeed put the US Ladies back on the map, it doesn't hurt that she is facially beautiful too
    the judges and media seem to really love Gracie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Eight years ago no one had heard of Gracie Gold. In 2022 the U.S. champion will be someone that we have never heard of.
    So. True. Look at Hanyu, 8 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Eight years ago no one had heard of Gracie Gold. In 2022 the U.S. champion will be someone that we have never heard of.
    I agree 2022, seems too much
    but until 2018, I think we will be seeing a 4 year domination of "the Golden Era"

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    I really like Gracie but sky_fly's comments really sound weird :S I don't think the color of her hair really affects her scores or her performances

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    OMG, WHY IS NOBODY THINKING IT'LL BE GRACIE GOLD! SHE'S SO BLONDE! SO MUCH BLONDER THAN JULIA/MAO/YU NA! HER BLONDE HOLLYWOOD-ESQUE LOOKS WILL GET HER 160+ POINTS! I AM SURE OF IT. (OH, AND SHE'LL BE DOING SO MANY MOVIES AFTERWARDS BECAUSE OF HER BLONDE, HOLLYWOOD LOOKS, BTW.) DID I MENTION HOW BEAUTIFULLY BLONDE SHE IS?

    I think it'll be Kim, but Julia has a shot on Russian ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    So. True. Look at Hanyu, 8 years ago.
    Yuzu will still be contender in the next 4 years
    Yuzu like Gracie has all the big skills and body type that has made him the ideal men's skater we have now

    I think 3Lz-3T will till be a big combination next quad
    that is where Gracie will get her money jumps, her speed, power will help with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    You probably said the same thing in 1997 and 1998 when Tara (who 3 years earlier nobody had heard of) was winning along with Michelle, and yet 8 years later it was still Michelle Kwan dominating.
    IMHO Michelle's career was utterly unique.

    But it's cool that other skaters have enthusiastic fans, too, and such support I wish them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    I can sense your sarcasm but I do believe Gold has the potential to dominate U.S ladies skating until 2022 potentially, especialy as the U.S doesnt even have much depth anymore so it is easier to do than before. Whether she fulfills that potential or not, is anyones guess. On the World stage she probably wont ever reach the achievements of someone like Kwan (but then again Kwan didnt face a horde of Asian powerhouses or half as deep a field as Gold is and will continue to have to), but she could put the U.S back on the map again, in a bigger way than say Wagner will ever be able to.
    I agree she has that potential. Even in the US, however, there is Polina and, no doubt, others who will challenge her. I see Gracie sticking around until the next Olympics but not after that. I think she will want to go to college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Julia, Gold, and Sotnikova will be the ones to beat after these Olympics. Maybe Murakami if she continues, and Osmond if she stays healthy and improves. I think moving forward though Gold's chances vs Julia will improve alot as she goes through her growth spurt, Gold improves, and they move off Russian ice for awhile. Sotnikova has improved her consistency alot and has the goods, but for some reason long term I see Gold keeping her positive success rate overall vs her so far (will probably finish behind her at the Games in Russia though.
    And Elena Radionova. She has everything Julia has, with better musicality and a ton of charisma. The only thing stopping her will be a growth spurt. There are other Russian babies in the pipeline, too.

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    If it weren't for Elena, I would not look forward to the next ladies quad. I love her expression and joy, and her jumps aren't bad. I just hope she "survives" her growth sport, because, dare I write it, I enjoy her more than Julia. (Please, skating god, make Kanako change her mind about retiring, too)

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