02-17-2014, 01:54 AM
In a way what Joannie said was right.l. And everyone knows it. I cannot remember an incident in recent memory where the door was so wide open for the challenger to basically have a one fall margin and still win gold. Usually there may be a small opening but they have to be perfect. Indeed, it could be said that Patrick could have even made 2 mistakes and still won gold. But he kept on making mistake after mistake, He probably could have gotten away with two of them, maybe even 3 but not all the ones he made,
The gold was his for the taking and he could not skate an imperfect but 90% clean program. In that way, his case is different from that of other silver medalists, where it was alot closer and where it is debate able whether they were robbed. There is no one -not even many ubers I would suspect - that think Patrick should have won with the performance he gave.
02-17-2014, 02:31 AM
02-17-2014, 10:30 AM
A good sportsman always talks up his competitors and downplays themselves to a degree. Another rule Chan is the exception to. Hanyu has also said in the past his training mate Fernandez is a better jumper and artist to him and other such PR nonsense to the press.
Originally Posted by peg
Meanwhile I will take the assessments of non Canadian skating experts like Scott Hamilton, Nicky Slater, Chris Hosworth, Christine Brennan, Robin Cousins, Johnny Weir, Tara Lipinski, Jenny Kirk, and even some Canadians like Sandra Bezic who all say Patrick is often overscored and has not deserved many of his medals and scores (yet even according to the sports experts the judges typically overscoring him he is still losing to Hanyu now). I will also take Toller Cranstons word that the smartest people in an arena are the fans, and the unusual chorus of boos after Chans wins at several events held outside of Canada- 2011 GPF, 2012 Worlds, say it all.
In any case when it comes to Chan overscoring of his competitor relative to him is NEVER a valid argument.
02-17-2014, 10:34 AM
the Golden Era
Originally Posted by Ryan O
02-17-2014, 10:39 AM
I really wish Joannie had come back for these Olympics. She would have won another Olympic medal in the Team Event. I always thought she made a mistake not continuing after 2010. I understand obviously why she didnt go to the 2010 Worlds, but the 2011 Worlds and 2012 Worlds would have been there for her to win if she were at her best.