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Let it go. This hatred of Russian skaters is getting old now.
2014 Worlds: Which Skaters are not going?
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Let it go. This hatred of Russian skaters is getting old now.
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To let it go would imply tacit agreement. When nothing is said, nothing changes. And the judging is in dire need of changing.
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Why ?. Because you did not agree with the result ?.
Plenty of Non-Russian people thought the result was correct.
I watched the ladies last group again last night.
Kim had no triple loop & two triple salchows.
Also she had very little tango moves in her choreography. If you watch her program with no sound you would have no idea what she was skating to. A skater of Kim's talent should have done more. Adelina stepped up her game. She won. You may not like it but it's a fact.
Why now for the second time a Russian win has been questioned should the entire sport be turned upside down ?.
The Canadians cried "foul" in 2002 until they got their own way. It was close in 2002 but what followed was awful for the sport.
Kim did not win, does that make her less of a great skater ?. No. Adelina won & I wish her nothing but the best for the future.
Exactly! However, if the point for artificial inflation of scores is to provide medal conteders for big federations even in periods they don't have appropriate talents, then it's time for Americans to get over-inflated at Worlds
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Well, it might get refreshed soon. Worlds will bring new results to discuss
If Gracie wins the ladies event at the Worlds with four falls & the Russian girls skate clean I doubt there would be as much outrage.
Remember Russian skaters are the root of all evil & North American skaters are all that is good in skating..........
I'm American but cringe at what some so-called skating fans have posted on here since Sochi.
Because there's been something wrong with the sport for a long time and it happened it was a Russian skater win that added the last drop.
This article was published before Men's event but the problems it discusses are the same we discussed so heatedly after Ladies:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/06/s...ing-figure-skating-gets-mixed-marks.html?_r=0
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Unless you get rid of EVERY judge in the sport you will always get the same results.
After SLC I remember saying to my sister that it wrong to change the system without changing the judges too. They will always find a way to keep the results in the order they want.
The top two in Ice Dance has been the same for 5 years. That's wrong as there have been times when both V/M & D/W made errors yet were held up by the judges.
There was no way that D/W were not going to win Gold in Sochi. That was a scandal too.
The judges see what they want to see. Most of them are set in their ways. Young judges are rare.
I had no problem with EITHER Kim or Sotnikova winning the Gold. It was close.
One thing is clear, ISU has something to think about because it doesn't look like this situation helps the popularity of the sport
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That & stupid costumes. The times I have defended skating to my family & then a skater wearing & truly awful costume comes on & the credibility of skating goes out the window......................One thing is clear, ISU has something to think about because it doesn't look like this situation helps the popularity of the sport
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Pfft, the costumes hardly make a difference.
But I tell you what does turn casuals off...when someone can fall on their backside four times in one competition and still win. (Oh wait, I forgot. That was the Canadians who fixed that, so it's all okay! No evil Russians!)
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I tried to take my younger brother skating, he was terrified he would have to dress like Javier Fernandez !
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^This. And it is not just "oh those evil Ruskies" (although their skaters have benefited from inflationary scores far more than any other skaters). Plenty of Americans were upset over Davis & White's scores (I agree--they should have won but the point spread between them and Virtue and Moor strains credibility). It doesn't matter WHO benefits. Corruption is corruption. It not only stinks, but it rots the sport from the inside out.
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--Getting back on topic, I'm sorry about Chan and Daisuke not going.
I wonder which new faces we may see on the podium?
I think Machida and Fernandez.
I wonder which new faces we may see on the podium?
I think Machida and Fernandez.
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Jeff, Stephane, Evan and Johnny already retired. No Brian, no Tomas at the Worlds. And now no Daisuke...all of my most favorite skaters are gone.;;;;;;;; Figure skating won't be the same for me.I was so excited for the men's competition, but Dai has withdrawn Of course I'm still going to watch it, but I was so looking forward to seeing him perform again...
What I'm really looking forward to now is ice dance. Though I'm terribly sad to see V/M and D/W go, I think I'm ready for the others now. Or so I say, truth be told, if they do end up retiring, it's going to be really sad for me for a while. Buuut, at least for the Worlds, I'm really excited for couples we haven't seen much of, like Hurtado/Diaz. I haven't been really paying attention to them, but their FD blew my mind when I saw it at the Olympics, so really looking forward to seeing them again. Then there's the other young couple I fell in love with this year, Papadakis/Cizeron. So far they haven't really fullfilled their potential, hopefully they reach their peak at Worlds, and if they don't... well, we'll always have Paris Also excited for canadians Paul/Islam and Gilles/Poirier. And for other more... well known couples. Anyway, can't wait!
Of course I'm still going to watch it, but I was so looking forward to seeing him perform again...What I'm really looking forward to now is ice dance. Though I'm terribly sad to see V/M and D/W go, I think I'm ready for the others now. Or so I say, truth be told, if they do end up retiring, it's going to be really sad for me for a while. Buuut, at least for the Worlds, I'm really excited for couples we haven't seen much of, like Hurtado/Diaz. I haven't been really paying attention to them, but their FD blew my mind when I saw it at the Olympics, so really looking forward to seeing them again. Then there's the other young couple I fell in love with this year, Papadakis/Cizeron. So far they haven't really fullfilled their potential, hopefully they reach their peak at Worlds, and if they don't... well, we'll always have Paris
Also excited for canadians Paul/Islam and Gilles/Poirier. And for other more... well known couples. Anyway, can't wait!
Poor Takahashi! :no:I'm so happy for Kozuka, though.
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