03-07-2014, 05:22 PM
I hope so too! I do think his best this year was 4cc, though, especially the Mission program. Had he gotten that score at the Olympics, he'd have been in 11th or so.
Originally Posted by BusyMom
03-07-2014, 05:32 PM
BUT... is it confirmed Adelina will not skate?
03-07-2014, 06:05 PM
Are they? Why? Some question the disproportionate value placed on Olympic results compared to other achievements in an athlete's career.
Originally Posted by Scott512
03-07-2014, 06:15 PM
Yulia also has never left an international event without a medal.
Originally Posted by aeviterna
03-07-2014, 06:31 PM
True, since she was part of gold medal team the Olympics. But she placed 5th at the individual event, so she really can't hold the same claim as Yuna that she's never finished off the podium any individual event. Yuna has never finished off the podium EVER, either intentionally or domestically.
Originally Posted by Isabel_O'Reilly
Julia's finished off the podium at nationals once or twice, I think. Of course the competition at Russian nationals is a bit stiffer, so I'd cut her a break there.
03-07-2014, 06:40 PM
Just to be clear, I think both sides have got it a little wrong when it comes to the meaning of Adelina's participation in Worlds.
I could care less if she skates brilliantly or she bombs. That is at best a secondary question, IMO. The real question is what kind of score she will receive after she gives her performance. First, the tech calls, then GOEs, and finally her PCS.
03-07-2014, 07:17 PM
There are some who think the federations in Canada and the US have too much power, so it depends on the situation. And I don't think Skate Canada can force its skaters (particularly its top skaters) to go to an event they don't really want to. And what would be the point of doing so if the skaters in question are not in the right shape, physically or emotionally, to go to Worlds?
Originally Posted by Skater Boy
03-07-2014, 09:08 PM
People place more value on the Olympics because it happens only 4 years, so it's viewed as something that's harder to even get to the Olympics, and once you get there it's what most skaters dream about so it's more difficult to get a OM. A skater that comes on the scene next season might not last the 4 years to get to the Olympics, whether it's because of injury or the talent in the country. - Look at Elizaveta Tuk. 2 years ago she was a talked about as an Olympic medal favorite; she didn't even make it to the team.
Originally Posted by humbaba
03-07-2014, 09:39 PM
Such a cool quote, WeakAnkles! I've just put it on my FB LOL
03-07-2014, 10:09 PM
Ok, you got me on that one. LOL.
Originally Posted by Vicky458
03-07-2014, 10:31 PM
The decision will be made march 10th. But most of think it's really already been made. If anyone should be getting time off it's 15 year old Yulia Lipnitskaia. She's 2 years younger and about 15 pounds lighter than Adelina Sotkinova. Yulia is not fully developed and is more fragile than Adelina is. She needs the kid glove treatment not Sotnikova. They have to make sure Yulia is not over worked in the next couple of years so she stays healthy and is great at age 18 and 19. After the top 2 Russians there is a steep dropff to the next girl. Yulia has competed a lot this season and that's risky business for a tiny 15 year old.
Originally Posted by msadot
03-08-2014, 12:17 AM
I can just picture Putin watching Yulia practice on surveillance video, and like marching up to her with a whip. "EEF you vant to EAT YOU VILL STRETCH ZAT ANKLE BEHIND YOUR EAR LOBES!!!"
03-08-2014, 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by sk8in
03-08-2014, 01:19 AM
Yes, I was in a hurry so the comment was posted before I was done. Of course I realize Yuna is far more impressive. Spanning nine(?) years and three Olympic Cycles, Yuna has never finished off the podium in any event listed on Wikipedia.
Originally Posted by Mrs. P
It does depend whether you count the team event. For me since scores for WTT are counted for records, and other sports have multiple events, and multiple medals, the team gold counts. If she hadn't contributed in such a significant way, maybe I would think of it differently, but she brought 20 points out of Russia's 75(?). We could also say that without the team event she would been pretty much guaranteed to take a medal in the individual.
I realize that she's finished off the podium at Nationals. That's why I specifically said international events. Out of fourteen events so far, she has ten Gold, three Silver, and one Bronze. Ironically enough she has not won Russian Nationals even once in her four years, though she is the most decorated Russian Ladies skater internationally (I mean for the last four years).
I also thought it's interesting that she still holds the highest score on the Junior Level. 187.XX and that is with one less jumping pass than senior, right?
03-08-2014, 02:03 AM